• sysoping

    From Dumas Walker@21:4/134 to AL on Tue Jan 6 11:13:11 2026
    There was no politics in the request to refrain from politics.
    #VoteBlue is a hashtag, nothing more, nothing less.

    Moving from politics to being a sysop...

    So, just to be clear... as a sysop you have absolutely no control over what appears in your origin line?

    Interesting.


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:4/134 to GAMGEE on Tue Jan 6 11:13:11 2026
    Yeah, no worries. He's now stated that he's done with the thread.
    Pretty standard practice for somebody like that.

    Al has a pretty serious case of TDS, and the prognosis isn't good. ;-)

    I think he just likes to play silly games, and also to get the last
    word in. As a moderator and echo participant, I dealt with his nonsense
    for several years. He and Dr. What are someone else's problems now.

    My money was on his "I didn't say that" game -- I used to have a QWK
    tagline dedicated to his favorite thing to say -- but I guess Al decided to
    cut his losses instead.


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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 6 14:55:42 2026
    There was no politics in the request to refrain from politics.
    #VoteBlue is a hashtag, nothing more, nothing less.

    Moving from politics to being a sysop...

    Is that so?

    So, just to be clear... as a sysop you have absolutely no control over what appears in your origin line?

    I have absolute control over what appears in my origin line. Why do you ask?

    In any case #VoteBlue is just a hashtag. It is not an attack on you (or anyone) so don't feel victimized.

    Interesting.

    Completely uninteresting.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 6 14:58:30 2026
    My money was on his "I didn't say that" game -- I used to have a QWK
    tagline dedicated to his favorite thing to say -- but I guess Al decided to cut his losses instead.

    What losses?

    If I had anything to say to you I would say it. If you have anything to say to me I will listen.

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 6 17:22:34 2026
    Hey Dumas!

    On Tue, 06 Jan 2026 11:13:10 -0500, you wrote:

    ..but I guess Al decided to cut his losses instead.

    Doubtful. He'll continue to argue just to argue.

    Stop feeding the troll, and he'll eventually go away or participate in a different conversation unrelated to the subject.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 6 20:23:23 2026
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Yeah, no worries. He's now stated that he's done with the thread.
    Pretty standard practice for somebody like that.

    Al has a pretty serious case of TDS, and the prognosis isn't good. ;-)

    I think he just likes to play silly games, and also to get the last
    word in. As a moderator and echo participant, I dealt with his
    nonsense for several years. He and Dr. What are someone else's
    problems now.

    My money was on his "I didn't say that" game -- I used to have a QWK tagline dedicated to his favorite thing to say -- but I guess Al
    decided to cut his losses instead.

    Yep, I'm familiar with his games and methods, from Othernet(s). Very predictable and expected behavior from him. I laugh at his attempts.



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  • From MIKE POWELL@21:4/134 to ACCESSION on Wed Jan 7 09:36:00 2026
    ..but I guess Al decided to cut his losses instead.

    Doubtful. He'll continue to argue just to argue.

    Agreed. He's already broke his promise to drop it.
    Stop feeding the troll, and he'll eventually go away or participate in a different conversation unrelated to the subject.

    Also agreed.
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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Dr. What on Thu Jan 8 09:44:40 2026
    Re: Re: Hiring Practices
    By: Dr. What to Adept on Thu Jan 01 2026 08:04 am


    No. I'm simply pointing out that YOU are treating one set of opinions as "political" and another set as "non-political". Unequal application of the rules is never correct.

    Just chimming in. I agree that the application of rules feels arbitrary at times and subjects tend to be "removed" only when the consensus is challenged. ie. stating some politicism in this place is safe as long as it fits the most supported stance around here, and only gets considered against the rules once the statement is challenged with enough vehemency it is obvious arguments against it can stand up to a point.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Al on Thu Jan 8 10:11:02 2026
    Re: Re: Hiring Practices
    By: Al to MIKE POWELL on Sun Jan 04 2026 09:56 pm


    #VoteBlue is not political speech. It is a hashtag that was in the origin line.

    I think that means I could use the hashtag #HitlerWasTheBest and nobody would complain because it is just a hashtag.


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  • From Accession@21:1/700 to Arelor on Thu Jan 8 17:11:30 2026
    Hey Arelor!

    On Thu, Jan 08 2026 10:11:02 -0600, you wrote:

    I think that means I could use the hashtag #HitlerWasTheBest and
    nobody would complain because it is just a hashtag.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for driving the point home. :D

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Al on Tue Jan 6 18:20:43 2026
    I'll not comment on the thing further.

    Yay! Ideal outcome!

    (I've been resisting commenting more, expressly because this network has the rules it does because it should be fun (or at least kind, if the topic is not fun), and I hardly want to add more than necessary to a conversation that I'm hoping will stop.)

    So, on that note, anyone make any interesting resolutions for the new year? I generally don't, but, "I'll draw something every day for a month" or something would be a neat resolution.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Adept on Sat Jan 10 09:10:38 2026
    I'll not comment on the thing further.

    Yay! Ideal outcome!

    Agreed.

    (I've been resisting commenting more, expressly because this network has the rules it does because it should be fun (or at least kind, if the topic is not fun), and I hardly want to add more than necessary to a conversation that I'm hoping will stop.)

    The thread was not something that interested me and I don't think for anyone else either, so I don't see any point in continuing with it.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Adept on Sat Jan 10 10:36:55 2026
    Re: Re: Hiring Practices
    By: Adept to Al on Tue Jan 06 2026 06:20 pm

    So, on that note, anyone make any interesting resolutions for the new year? I generally don't, but, "I'll draw something every day for a month" or something would be a neat resolution.

    I tend to not make resolutions. If you want to start doing something new or different, I think you can do so at any time (and you don't have to wait until a new year).

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Sat Jan 10 11:01:01 2026
    Adept wrote to Al <=-

    So, on that note, anyone make any interesting resolutions for the new year? I generally don't, but, "I'll draw something every day for a
    month" or something would be a neat resolution.

    I signed up for a 90-day writing sprint. One hour per day, 6 days a
    week. I've done 30-day NANOWRIMOs before, with the intention of getting
    a practical first rough draft, this challenge aims to have a complete
    book in 90 days.

    My resolution this year is to write consistently, get published (or self-published) and see if I can make some income writing.



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  • From phigan@21:3/193 to Al on Sun Jan 11 00:08:59 2026
    In any case #VoteBlue is just a hashtag. It is not an attack on you (or anyone) so don't feel victimized.

    What if there are people out there who don't vote? It might insult, and possibly trigger, them for telling them how to live their lives!



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  • From phigan@21:3/193 to Arelor on Sun Jan 11 00:11:55 2026
    I think that means I could use the hashtag #HitlerWasTheBest and nobody
    would complain because it is just a hashtag.

    Klara Hitler? What did she do that was so great?



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  • From Al@21:4/106 to phigan on Sat Jan 10 20:33:04 2026
    In any case #VoteBlue is just a hashtag. It is not an attack on you (or
    anyone) so don't feel victimized.

    What if there are people out there who don't vote? It might insult, and possibly trigger, them for telling them how to live their lives!

    There was no discussion around voting at all so no one told anyone to vote, not to vote, how to vote or how to live their lives.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Al on Sun Jan 11 10:21:09 2026
    Al wrote to Accession <=-

    Second time I've seen someone say this. What's wrong with the
    origin? It looks normal to me.

    When the poster damn near freaked out on someone for posting political stuff ends their message with #VoteBlue, they continued the politics themselves. A pot meet kettle, kind of thing.

    They didn't "end their message" with #VoteBlue, it was part of the
    origin line not a statement anyone was making.

    As you well know, the origin line is configured to whatever you want it
    to be. It's just as much a part of the message as ... the message. You
    know all of this, and choose to argue about it anyway.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Dmxrob on Sun Jan 11 10:21:09 2026
    Dmxrob wrote to Accession <=-

    * Origin: Off the Wall - St. Peters, Missouri - #VoteBlue (21:4/142)

    While I was reading your message, I was actually in the process of
    agreeing with you.

    Then I read your Origin line, and the credibility of your message went right out the window. :(

    Oh yes, let's equate calling people names with common hashtags. That
    way you can feel better about normalizing hate speech.

    Who was calling anyone names?

    * Origin: Off the Wall - St. Peters, Missouri - LGBTQ+You (21:4/142)

    So, you change it, but *STILL* can't help but put some controversial
    (indeed political) words in there, can you?

    Come on, quit trying to fan the flames with your passive-agressive
    tactics. If you can't do that, please go away.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 11 10:21:09 2026
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Al <=-

    They didn't "end their message" with #VoteBlue, it was part of the origin line not a statement anyone was making.

    The sysop certainly was making it, on a decidedly apolitical message network.

    Absolutely correct.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 11 10:21:09 2026
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    Re: Re: Hiring Practices
    By: Dmxrob to Accession on Sun Jan 04 2026 05:13 pm

    Oh yes, let's equate calling people names with common hashtags. That way yo can feel better about normalizing hate speech.

    Wow. Just, wow. From what I recall, there was no name calling. To make
    the jump to hate speech seems unmerited.

    Agreed. This guy (?) is really something.



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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Gamgee on Sun Jan 11 17:11:24 2026
    They didn't "end their message" with #VoteBlue, it was part of the
    origin line not a statement anyone was making.

    As you well know, the origin line is configured to whatever you want it
    to be.

    Of course. And someone included the #VoteBlue hashtag in theirs. So what?

    It's just as much a part of the message as ... the message. You
    know all of this, and choose to argue about it anyway.

    It's not been discussed by anyone. It's not been thrown at anyone.

    You are offended by it and I am not. Oh well.

    Feel free to netmail me if you want to hear my further comments but I am happy to drop it.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Al on Sun Jan 11 23:27:35 2026
    Al wrote to Gamgee <=-

    They didn't "end their message" with #VoteBlue, it was part of the
    origin line not a statement anyone was making.

    As you well know, the origin line is configured to whatever you want it
    to be.

    Of course. And someone included the #VoteBlue hashtag in theirs. So
    what?

    So, it's a political statement, which isn't allowed here. Stop
    pretending you don't realize that.

    It's just as much a part of the message as ... the message. You
    know all of this, and choose to argue about it anyway.

    It's not been discussed by anyone. It's not been thrown at anyone.

    There've been several messages in here about it. Stop pretending you
    don't see them.

    You are offended by it and I am not. Oh well.

    Offended isn't the correct word, but whatever.

    Feel free to netmail me if you want to hear my further comments but I
    am happy to drop it.

    No point in that, as you're dug in and won't listen anyway. No need to
    reply, as I'm done with this. You and your "pal" both reflect a common
    trait of those who #VoteBlue - "Rules for Thee, but not for Me".



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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Gamgee on Mon Jan 12 02:25:12 2026
    Of course. And someone included the #VoteBlue hashtag in theirs. So
    what?

    So, it's a political statement, which isn't allowed here. Stop
    pretending you don't realize that.

    Life is full of politics and political things. No one is discussing politics here.

    It's not been discussed by anyone. It's not been thrown at anyone.

    There've been several messages in here about it. Stop pretending you
    don't see them.

    Just the ones you keep posting. Even today, no one is discussing politics.

    You are offended by it and I am not. Oh well.

    Offended isn't the correct word, but whatever.

    Well then what is it?

    Feel free to netmail me if you want to hear my further comments but I
    am happy to drop it.

    No point in that, as you're dug in and won't listen anyway.

    I am listening. I am not bending to your will.

    No need to reply, as I'm done with this.

    I hope so.

    You and your "pal" both reflect a common trait of those who #VoteBlue - "Rules for Thee, but not for Me".

    Just so you know I don't have much of a concept of "#VoteBlue" or "#VoteRed" or any other color. I have not put any rules on you.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Nightfox on Mon Jan 12 16:06:12 2026
    I tend to not make resolutions. If you want to start doing something
    new or different, I think you can do so at any time (and you don't have
    to wait until a new year).

    That does seem healthy.

    And, when I do things like this, it tends to be, "I'm going to try this system", or some other thing that gets me going on trying to get something done on a near-daily basis toward some goal.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Jan 12 16:12:01 2026
    I signed up for a 90-day writing sprint. One hour per day, 6 days a
    week. I've done 30-day NANOWRIMOs before, with the intention of getting
    a practical first rough draft, this challenge aims to have a complete
    book in 90 days.

    My resolution this year is to write consistently, get published (or self-published) and see if I can make some income writing.

    Nice!

    I did a single NaNoWriMo, but as a two-person writing thing to make it less intimidating.

    And it was neat to get the story written, though I never got past a few chapters in when trying to edit it afterward. I occasionally think about doing more with it.

    But your goals seem reasonable enough, and more importantly, the system you're aiming for seems good.

    I have no idea on the money-making side of things, but it seems like you'll accomplish a lot regardless of whether or not you make a cent.

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  • From MIKE POWELL@21:4/134 to GAMGEE on Mon Jan 12 08:37:00 2026
    As you well know, the origin line is configured to whatever you want it
    to be. It's just as much a part of the message as ... the message. You know all of this, and choose to argue about it anyway.

    And he continues to do so after claiming he is letting it go.

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  • From MIKE POWELL@21:4/134 to GAMGEE on Mon Jan 12 08:39:00 2026
    Who was calling anyone names?

    To be fair, I believe the initial instigator, Dr What, may have called
    some folks names. Most of us have not been, though.

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  • From MIKE POWELL@21:4/134 to AL on Mon Jan 12 08:42:00 2026
    Feel free to netmail me if you want to hear my further comments but I am happ to drop it.

    You claimed you were doing so several days ago and, yet, here you still
    are.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to MIKE POWELL on Tue Jan 13 00:18:24 2026
    Feel free to netmail me if you want to hear my further comments but I am happ >> to drop it.

    You claimed you were doing so several days ago and, yet, here you still
    are.

    Gamgee posted to me and I answered. Just like now, you posted to me and I am replying to you.

    I will drop this thread now regardless of who is posting to who. If you want to discuss it futher netmail works.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to MIKE POWELL on Tue Jan 13 08:20:08 2026
    MIKE POWELL wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    As you well know, the origin line is configured to whatever you want it
    to be. It's just as much a part of the message as ... the message. You know all of this, and choose to argue about it anyway.

    And he continues to do so after claiming he is letting it go.

    Yep. I'm done with the troll now, he resides in the twit filter.

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    Hahaha! #WeWantGreenland


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  • From Gryphon@21:1/101 to phigan on Sat Jan 17 07:58:15 2026
    On 11 Jan 2026 at 12:08a, phigan pondered and said...

    In any case #VoteBlue is just a hashtag. It is not an attack on you (or anyone) so don't feel victimized.

    What if there are people out there who don't vote? It might insult, and possibly trigger, them for telling them how to live their lives!

    Would you feel the same way if somebody used "John 3:16" in their origin line. It doesn't sound very different to me.

    "Amy Pond, there's something you better understand about me 'cause it's
    important, and one day your life may depend upon it. I am definitely a Mad
    Man with a Blue Box."
    .oO Madman with a Blue Box BBS Oo.oO madmanbbs.ddns.net Oo.

    ... I don't want to go!

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