I'm fairly certain minimum wage is still decided by the states. Here,
minimum wage is still like $7.25 or something like that. It hasn't
gone up here (at least yet).
Yes, which is why fast food costs more in California than it does in
other states. Based on a recent cross-country journey I took, I can confirm the price difference. ;)
Down here in NZ/Australia, we'd call that a serious case of taking the piss.Not sure if you are making a funny here or not as an old saying of mine
is "beer tastes like piss smells" (which is why i don't drink it!). ;)
We have plenty of piss taking of our own going on. The major brewers
here have been popping out their cruddy generic beers in cans that mimic "craft beer" can offerings. In an effort to snaarf some of that
market. So you can pay more for a bog standard beveridge of dubious quality in a can that looks like a genuine crafty.
I'm fairly certain minimum wage is still decided by the states. Here, minimum wage is still like $7.25 or something like that. It hasn't gone
up here (at least yet).
I don't doubt that one bit. Yet even here a numbered meal that comes
with a soda and fries at McDonalds or Burger King is up around (or more) $10 now.
Accession wrote to Blue White <=-
I lost all respect for McDonalds when their "dollar menu" turned into a "value" menu, and all the prices went up. Probably a good thing I can't stomach that crap any more anyway. :)
kirkspragg wrote to Blue White <=-
i.e. charging boutique beer prices for cheep beer is just not on.
Fast food companies are reporting to their shareholders that they think their customers have taken just about as much shrinkflation, degradation of service and price gouging as they're going to take. McDonalds is planning on "slowing the rate of increase". Not halting, not lowering prices.
Not sure who they think they'll be selling to. If the news reports locally are correct McChucks are suffering from increasing costs with falling turnover. They're pricing themselves out of existance. Not selling enough o their Sh*t at inflated prices to cover the costs thereof.
Not sure who they think they'll be selling to. If the news reports locally are correct McChucks are suffering from increasing costs with falling turnover. They're pricing themselves out of existance. Not selling enough of their Sh*t at inflated prices to cover the costs thereof.
Not sure who they think they'll be selling to. If the news reports locally are correct McChucks are suffering from increasing costs with falling turnover. They're pricing themselves out of existance. Not selling enough of their Sh*t at inflated prices to cover the costs thereof.
.... I would KILL for 30 year ago McDonalds food today.
$15.40 here... But we're Canada so everything is over priced through the roof.
I don't doubt that one bit. Yet even here a numbered meal that comes
with a soda and fries at McDonalds or Burger King is up around (or more)
$10 now.
Took my son into KFC the other day to grab him just a chicken burger.
Their original. $11!
I used to have a yearly craving for fast food fried chicken, usually
KFC. I think I'll be down to a yearly fast food craving now.
.... I would KILL for 30 year ago McDonalds food today.
Even the original ice cream made from powdered products?
Is McChucks a local chain in your area? I haven't heard of it.
Is McChucks a local chain in your area? I haven't heard of it.
.... I would KILL for 30 year ago McDonalds food today.
Even the original ice cream made from powdered products?
McChucks, Maccas, they're both the usual name for McDonalds here.
For the meal? That sounds about right. It's crazy, just 10 years ago it was under $5. Have you gotten a 50% pay increase in those 10 years? The scale is tipping in the wrong direction! :)
I used to have a yearly craving for fast food fried chicken, usually
KFC. I think I'll be down to a yearly fast food craving now.
$15.40 here... But we're Canada so everything is over priced through theroof.
Yikes. I'm sure it'll happen here at some point, and probably sooner
than later.
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It's insane.
Ogg wrote to Exodus <=-
Even the original ice cream made from powdered products?
Ogg wrote to Exodus <=-
Hello Exodus!
.... I would KILL for 30 year ago McDonalds food today.
Accession wrote to Ogg <=-
What ice cream? It's a myth, as the ice cream machine is *always*
broken. :)
Tiny wrote to Accession <=-
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It's insane.
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
Tried to checkout your gopher out of interest but it does not seem to be up/reachable at the moment... what have you got there?
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It's insane.
It'd be a lot easier if they bought ice cream, milk and one of those stick blenders...
Even the original ice cream made from powdered products?
Back when they would correct you if you ordered a "Milk Shake".
"One Shake, coming up..."
"You mean a milk shake?"
"Here's your shake, have a nice day..."
Is McChucks a local chain in your area? I haven't heard of it.
Its slang. Anything starting with "Mc" is normally a reference to mcdonalds, anything after it is either either a noun or a verb. In this case, "chuck" is what happens after you eat it. :)
For the meal? That sounds about right. It's crazy, just 10 years ago it
was under $5. Have you gotten a 50% pay increase in those 10 years? The
scale is tipping in the wrong direction! :)
no, just the burger. Nothing else.
$15.40 here... But we're Canada so everything is over priced through the
roof.
Yikes. I'm sure it'll happen here at some point, and probably sooner
than later.
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It's insane.
What ice cream? It's a myth, as the ice cream machine is *always*
broken. :)
It's worth researching the news regarding their ice cream machines. They're incredibly finicky, have a self-cleaning mode that when it
fails, requires 4 hours to reset, there's one company that services
them, they're locked down to prevent service, parts are horrendously expensive, and the company is currently suing a company that the franchises love that reverse engineers the maintenance interface so the franchisees can fix it themselves.
There's another law suit around a company that made a screen scraping
app that would map out which McD's machines are out of order by trying
to place an online order for a shake and reporting which are
unavailable.
It'd be a lot easier if they bought ice cream, milk and one of those
stick blenders...
I hope they do. Remember when McDonalds used to have GOOD food ... I
of service and price gouging as they're going to take. McDonalds is planning on "slowing the rate of increase". Not halting, not lowering prices.
We're the Boiling Frog.
30 years ago people said it was bad .... I would KILL for 30 year ago McDonalds food today.
I just checked and the gophersite is up. Maybe you tried to check it during an automated maintenance window? My toy systems always go offline for about 10 minutes every sunday 3 am (CEST).
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It'sWhere is here?
Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I thought it was funny when McDonald's introduced their McFlurry, which was obviously a copy of Dairy Queen's Blizzard (even the name is
similar), and McDonald's offered fewer flavors.
Accession wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
To be completely honest, I don't care what their excuse is. McCorp is a multi-billion (or trillion maybe?) dollar company. They could pay
someone to invent an ice cream machine that actually works.
There's another law suit around a company that made a screen scraping
app that would map out which McD's machines are out of order by trying
to place an online order for a shake and reporting which are
unavailable.
I've heard about this. However, I wasn't aware there was a law suit because of it. What in the world would they sue for, defamation of character or something stupid like that?
Nightfox wrote to Tiny <=-
Yeah, fast food prices have gotten a bit insane, especially over the
last few years.
Accession wrote to Tiny <=-
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
To be completely honest, I don't care what their excuse is. McCorp is a multi-billion (or trillion maybe?) dollar company. They could pay someone to invent an ice cream machine that actually works.
They don't hold a flurry upside down before they hand it to you, do they? I always thought that was an odd marketing quirk.
Yeah, fast food prices have gotten a bit insane, especially over the last
few years.
I haven't been at a while, and my daughter was hungry after school activities. We went to a Carls Jr, and a 5 piece chicken tender meal was $16.89 with tax. Unreal.
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
I'd hope it's across the board, otherwise you'd see fast food companies hiring lots of 39-hour-a-week employees at the lower rate, since they're not "full-time" employees.
They don't hold a flurry upside down before they hand it to you, do
they? I always thought that was an odd marketing quirk.
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
From ontario.ca. THe new general min wage will be $17.20 and the student min wage will be $16.20/hr
So only $1 less.
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
General minimum wage here in Ontario is $16.55 per hour. Student minimum wage (under the age of 18 who work 28 hours a week or less) is $15.60 per hour.
Those rates are set to go up on Oct 1 to $17.20 & $16.20 per hour.
To be completely honest, I don't care what their excuse is. McCorp is
a multi-billion (or trillion maybe?) dollar company. They could pay
someone to invent an ice cream machine that actually works.
Especially when they're known for shakes, and even have yealy marketing
campaigns around shakes!
I've heard about this. However, I wasn't aware there was a law suit
because of it. What in the world would they sue for, defamation of
character or something stupid like that?
I think it was DMCA-based.
Now I'm assuming this is for a full time job? Part time or summer help
for a minor I would assume would be quite a bit lower?
I'd hope it's across the board, otherwise you'd see fast food companies hiring lots of 39-hour-a-week employees at the lower rate, since they're not "full-time" employees.
To be completely honest, I don't care what their excuse is. McCorp is
a multi-billion (or trillion maybe?) dollar company. They could pay
someone to invent an ice cream machine that actually works.
My first job was at a Dairy Queen. The ice cream machines we had were rarely broken. I've wondered why McDonald's doesn't buy the same ones we used (unless perhaps they were made specifically by/for Dairy Queen).
From ontario.ca. THe new general min wage will be $17.20 and the student min wage will be $16.20/hr
My first job was at a Dairy Queen. The ice cream machines we had were
rarely broken. I've wondered why McDonald's doesn't buy the same ones we
used (unless perhaps they were made specifically by/for Dairy Queen).
Even if that is the case, my statement still stands. McD's brings in multiple times the money Dairy Queen does, and still doesn't have working ice cream machines. :)
My first job was at a Dairy Queen. The ice cream machines we had were rarely broken. I've wondered why McDonald's doesn't buy the same ones we used (unless perhaps they were made specifically by/for Dairy Queen).
Even if that is the case, my statement still stands. McD's brings in
multiple times the money Dairy Queen does, and still doesn't have
working ice cream machines. :)
Yeah. I'm saying maybe they sould just buy better ones that don't break down very often. :)
It's worth researching the news regarding their ice cream machines. They're incredibly finicky, have a self-cleaning mode that when it
fails, requires 4 hours to reset, there's one company that services
them, they're locked down to prevent service, parts are horrendously expensive, and the company is currently suing a company that the franchises love that reverse engineers the maintenance interface so the franchisees can fix it themselves.
I believe it's going up to $17 something an hour in Oct here. It'sWhere is here?
Ontario, Canada.
And they wonder why businesses are shutting their doors all over the place. Either that, or charging your firstborn for some shit food.
*shrug*
Agree, this whole country right now is a mess.
Your average home price in Ontario is around $893,200.
Your average house hold income in Ontario is $80,000
I'd hope it's across the board, otherwise you'd see fast food companies hiring lots of 39-hour-a-week employees at the lower rate, since they're not "full-time" employees.
And they wonder why businesses are shutting their doors all over the
place. Either that, or charging your firstborn for some shit food.
*shrug*
Should I say housing crisis!
Income-wise it's probably about the same here, if not lower. But home prices are probably quite a bit less than that. Still outrageous
compared to say, 5 years ago. I would probably made almost double what
we paid for our house almost 20 years ago, but with the current prices
on new houses, we would be right back into the same kind of
mortgage/loan we've almost paid off over the years now.
*Now they are saying they want more money for A/C and to sign this form. My kid (who should have been a lawyer) has looked at everything she tore the letter up. If I sign or agree to anything it will modify my lease thus allowing the crooked managment company to make changes to our terms. I just told the super "Produce my lease that says I am NOT paying for A/C." He replied "You know the building has changed ownership and management a dozen times since you moved in." I said "I sure do. I
have a copy of my lease, but I won't produce it until managment does first. My lawyer doesn't want me doing your job for you." - That got them to go away for 2 years, now it's started back up already doing the above and so far haven't heard anything back. Of course we also pay our rent at least 2 weeks early every month just to make sure they don't get us with a banking error.
Yes, housing prices for us started to get silly in 2017. We purchased our home for 190k in 2013 and it now sells for 650.
In any sense, we are feeling like we are out growing our home and looking for something else in this crazy market.
And they wonder why businesses are shutting their doors all over the place. Either that, or charging your firstborn for some shit food. *shrug*
Agree, this whole country right now is a mess.
Your average home price in Ontario is around $893,200.
Your average house hold income in Ontario is $80,000
What do you think is the cause of the dispartity?
In the Ontario example this is so out of line as to be unworkable,
What's up?
Exactly. What we spend on food (and we stopped buying
fresh produce) is more then tripple then it was 5 years
ago. We also eat much much less.
House purchased for 380 in 2016 and now its 660 today.
No fresh produce? That's pretty much all I have. No processed
foods (except some canned foods just in case) ..and I average
$100/wk on groceries.
Tiny wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Our company says 32 hours is full time. That way they force you into paying for the group benefit plan.
niter3 wrote to Accession <=-
Your average home price in Ontario is around $893,200.
Your average house hold income in Ontario is $80,000
Accession wrote to niter3 <=-
I don't want to start over. I'd rather pay this house off before I'm
50, try to retire by 56, and enjoy no mortgage payment the rest of my life. :)
Tiny wrote to Niter3 <=-
This is why as much as we hate our apartment we will die there.
niter3 wrote to Accession <=-
In any sense, we are feeling like we are out growing our home and
looking for something else in this crazy market.
That's an interesting data point - the ratio of home price to median income. When my parents bought their house in 1970, they paid $24,000. I'm pretty sure my dad was making about that much in a year.
In California, they raised the minimum wage for fast-food workers, and
the restaurants responded by raising prices up to 35% on items. You
could go to a diner and get a burger for about the same price. And service. And coffee refills. and a clean table.
What's weird, is there was an article about In 'n Out where they blamed the minimum-wage increase for why they increased the prices of their food.
But their starting wage was already a couple dollars over the new minimum wage, so it was more than a little confusing.
of service and price gouging as they're going to take. McDonalds is planning on "slowing the rate of increase". Not halting, not lowering prices.
We're the Boiling Frog.
But their starting wage was already a couple dollars over the new min wage, so it was more than a little confusing.
I'd still wonder what their starting pay was compared to minimum wage. Maybe the minimum wage was raised higher than what their starting wage.
Deep fried hotdogs was my favorite teenage fast food closing-timeReading that caused me to think those hot dogs EXPLODED while being cooked. Did they?
experiment.
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Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
What's weird, is there was an article about In 'n Out where they blamed the minimum-wage increase for why they increased the prices of their
food.
But their starting wage was already a couple dollars over the new
minimum wage, so it was more than a little confusing.
But may as well go to the diner anyway, as those generally wind up with more-interesting food.
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Though it's also interesting with McDonald's and their app, where you
can get a variety of cheaper (even free) things, if you're willing to
put up with a variety of things.
But when the economists look at it, it's basically finding a way to
still get the low-income customers while being able to charge the higher-income customers more.
I'd pay cash at the drive through, until they start collecting license plate data. If they aren't already. :)
Excuse me sucker, er Mr Customer, due to dangers associated with cash
use we need your license. <chuckle> Makes you wonder about the plates though, the drive throughs are already on camera wouldn't be a big step
to suck that info out.
Spec
Excuse me sucker, er Mr Customer, due to dangers associated with
cash use we need your license. <chuckle> Makes you wonder about the plates though, the drive throughs are already on camera wouldn't
be a big step.
If you have a "subscription" to one of the car washes here, instead of a sticker on your windshield, they scan your license plate. So the technology is already available.
By using the app, you agree to private mediation for any dispute with
Mcdonalds - they added that wording in earlier this year.
sticker on your windshield, they scan your license plate. So the technology is already available.
That was the whole point, its really only a matter of will. If they decided to do it, half the equation is already in place.
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Anyway, no issue for me -- I still have the Play store set as in the
US, which has stopped me from installing a variety of things
region-locked to Germany.
ogg wrote to Spectre <=-
If you have a "subscription" to one of the car washes here, instead of
a sticker on your windshield, they scan your license plate. So the technology is already available.
ogg wrote to Spectre <=-
If you have a "subscription" to one of the car washes here, instead of
a sticker on your windshield, they scan your license plate. So the technology is already available.
Data has become the currency of exchange now, I would think that any company that could harvest customer data is harvesting customer data.
Anyway, no issue for me -- I still have the Play store set as in the US, which has stopped me from installing a variety of things region-locked to Germany.
I'm going more and more to F-Droid - as I'm not a fan of ad-supported software. I can find most of what I need and not worry about paying for
a full-featured version.
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