Anyone else currently trying to reduce their screen use?
I gave up on social apps keeping only Youtube for now. Because I enjoy listening to stuff while working. Helps me fall asleep at night too. The only social app I have left is probably github, if that's considered a social app. But I do follow people and checks it pretty compulsively during the day. So I guess it counts. It's not exactly work related 100% of the time.
Peter London wrote to All <=-
Anyone else currently trying to reduce their screen use?
I gave up on social apps keeping only Youtube for now. Because I enjoy listening to stuff while working. Helps me fall asleep at night too.
The only social app I have left is probably github, if that's
considered a social app. But I do follow people and checks it pretty compulsively during the day. So I guess it counts. It's not exactly
work related 100% of the time.
Not being on any social platforms has helped me regain control over my time, and better at "living in the present".
But I still use my stupid phone too much. Now mainly the web browser.
I check forums and e-mails way too many times than strictly necessary. It's a bad habit, built over a loong long time. Over 15 years I think.
I have an android. I've heard of minimalist launchers and other
techniques to "dumb it down". Still need banking apps, and digital ID. Yes, in Sweden you REALLY need those things. But I can easily strip the rest. At least in theory.
Main goal are - being in the present together with family, less brain
rot, less stress overall, you know, the usual downsides of the current era.
Any thoughts or experience on this?
Cheers
Peter
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Hello Peter!
Does the FTN reader count as social apps? It's the only thing I check
pretty compulsively throughout the day.
Does the FTN reader count as social apps? It's the only thing I checkIt probably does, but just of out curiosity, which app is that?
pretty compulsively throughout the day.
I use JuiceSSH to check my bbs 500 times a day. But it's not optimal.
Been wanting to vibe code somerhing better, but it conflicts with my
idea of reducing screen time, that's a problem... :).
Anyone else currently trying to reduce their screen use?
Anyone else currently trying to reduce their screen use?
Main goal are - being in the present together with family, less brain rot, less stress overall, you know, the usual downsides of the current era.
Any thoughts or experience on this?
In particular, the vibe-coding process itself will take a lot of screen time. :-) AI keeps messing up constantly, so it's just endless checking and double-checking.
I used to use GoldED+ for many years, but it's not very convenient on a smartphone over SSH. So now I'm vibe-coding my own AmberEdit, but it's
pretty far from production-ready.
In particular, the vibe-coding process itself will take a lot of screen
time. :-) AI keeps messing up constantly, so it's just endless checking
and double-checking.
I've found that if you try to vibe-code an entire project, it often
doesn't save you much time because you have to spend time checking and correcting it. But AI coding tools can save you time if you at least
use it for smaller tasks (or perhaps simpler tasks).
A long time ago I did the following to my Iphone...
- No more noise or vibrating on texts. - No more noise or vibrating on emails. - Unknown callers not in my contacts are shitcanned to
voicemail. - The "focus time" of absolute silence between 10pm and 7am.
.... And its been nicely quiet since.
I don't use any social apps whatsoever.
So you are probably fighting a loosing battle, unless everybody is
on board.
My kid is three and I can still influence him
to the better. But again, all his future friends are gonna be glued to
their screens most likely, so there's only so much you can do. It's a
worry for me. One amongst many worries. :).
Good idea. In fact, I don't have sound on any notifications except texts and calls from my wife. If she asks me to buy groceries on way home from work I don't want to miss it (in that case I definitely will have to go
out again, once home and when she asks "did you see my texts" haha).
You can do a lot, and you'll have to if you want to win this war...
Your energy will decide if you win it.
Peter London wrote to All <=-
I think it also helps to choose our battles carefully. Screen addiction
is definitely one of the battles worth fighting against.
Tried to impress on her the difference between consuming and creating.
2 of my family members are the most screen addicted individuals I've ever observed. They both get physically ill when the network is down. And of course, I am tech support, so their stress affects me too. I've learned to build pretty solid network solutions for them, though. Because it makes my life easier too, haha.
Two members of my family are the most screen addicted individuals I've
ever observed. One of them is 84, and the other is 12, so this is not exaclty a generational problem either ;). They both get physically ill
when the network is down. And of course, I am their tech support, so
their stress affects me too. I've learned to build pretty solid network solutions for them, though. Because it makes my life easier too, haha.
If someone wants your attention, have them call you.
You know these two paragraphs say the same thing, right?
If someone wants your attention, have them call you.
I'm just the opposite. I hate voice calls. Texting gets my attention a lo quicker.
She's turned out with a pretty healthy use of social networks, but she's addicted to group chats and texting and will drop everything for them.
If someone wants your attention, have them call you.
I'm just the opposite. I hate voice calls. Texting gets my attention quicker.
To each his own... Some people I know enjoy spending time typing paragraphs of text nonsense that I ignore as it could have been articulated verbally in less time and got my limited attention span better.
I hate voice calls for a variety of reasons, and like text for a variety of reasons.
Voice calls:
Cause me anxiety
Require immediate shifting to call
May be something I'm unprepared for
May come with a video component that I'm unprepared for Have a greater chance that I mis-state something
Text:
Is what I grew up with
Allows for time shifting
Can be edited to make it better
Gives me time to think through the topic
Lowers the chance that I'm mis-stating something
Mind you, you don't get verbal tone with text, and lots of people read extra tone into text when it isn't there. So I know it's not all positive.
You must be younger than me. :) I didn't grow up with text, and I didn't get my own cell phone until I was 21.. But since then, I've always found texting to be very convenient.
ICQ had a feature where you could fill out a little profile for yoruself and have it find you a random chat partner online - It was a bit like having pen pals. I talked to a lot of people that way, and I miss that sometimes. I wonder if people would still do that if that feature existed these days.. And I feel like as I've gotten older, it seems more rare for people to do that - Maybe for people in my age group. Maybe younger
people would be more apt to hang out and chat with people like that. It was definitely a thing I did a lot in my teens and early 20s.
Text:
Is what I grew up with
You must be younger than me. :) I didn't grow up with text, and I
didn't get my own cell phone until I was 21.. But since then, I've
always found texting to be very convenient.
You must be younger than me. :) I didn't grow up with text, and I didn't
get my own cell phone until I was 21.. But since then, I've always found
texting to be very convenient.
Eh, maybe a bit, but I meant "text", not "texting". Since most of my communication is through Teams/Signal/WhatsApp/Discord, and there's invariably a desktop app, I wind up using a keyboard much of the time anyway.
Since I grew up with BBSs, I spent _way_ more time typing and reading things than I did having a non-digital phone call.
Nightfox wrote to Adept <=-
I know what you mean; these days, I feel like voice calls can be
something I'm unprepared for too and might not be in a great place to
take a call - but I grew up before it was common to have cell phones,
so I was used to occasional phone calls. I don't get many phone calls though (at least, not many from family & friends - I do sometimes get calls from job recruiters & such, as well as spam calls).
Nightfox wrote to Adept <=-
ICQ had a feature where you could fill out a little profile for
yoruself and have it find you a random chat partner online - It was a
bit like having pen pals. I talked to a lot of people that way, and I
miss that sometimes. I wonder if people would still do that if that feature existed these days..
As much as I prefer phone calls for being able to quickly resolve issues, the intrusion factor bothers me more now; in a support role calls tend to be trying to jump the line, so to speak. It's important to set expectations and not drop everything for them.
1. "hello" chat messages. They'll wait for you to respond then treat it like a synchronous comms method. Instead, include your request or pertinent information in the intro and I'll have the information needed to prioritize this. The only benefit of chat over a phone call is the asynchronousness of it.
4. Talking over people in meetings is getting bad. I sometimes feel like I'm viewed as being quiet in meetings. I'm introverted, but sometimes I'm waiting to get a word in edgewise? Stop for comments.
6. My personal pet peeve - set an outgoing voicemail message. Especially when hiring, I hate it when I call the number on a resume and get a generic message. I have anxiety that I misdialed and the person won't get the message.
ICQ had a feature where you could fill out a little profile for yoruself
and have it find you a random chat partner online - It was a bit like
having pen pals. I talked to a lot of people that way, and I miss that
sometimes. I wonder if people would still do that if that feature existed
these days..
ChatRoulette took it to a different level, if memory serves, it was totally random.
Voice calls:
Cause me anxiety
Voice calls:
Cause me anxiety
I'm afraid you lost me at voice calls causing anxiety...
1. "hello" chat messages. They'll wait for you to respond then treat it like a synchronous comms method. Instead, include your request or pertinent information in the intro and I'll have the information needed
1. "hello" chat messages. They'll wait for you to respond then treat like a synchronous comms method. Instead, include your request or pertinent information in the intro and I'll have the information need
Mind you, you don't get verbal tone with text, and lots of people read extra tone into text when it isn't there. So I know it's not all positive.
ChatRoulette took it to a different level, if memory serves, it was
totally random.
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