It seems like an odd move, as Fender is only doing this now..
Nightfox wrote to All <=-
It seems like an odd move, as Fender is only doing this now..
I think the problem is that someone made a slightly-better guitar, so now people are buying that, but it's clearly derivative.
I think the problem is that someone made a slightly-better guitar, so now people are buying that, but it's clearly derivative.
But I don't know. I read about it in context of the idea of a law to protect artistic styles. Which... seems like a bad idea, but I appreciate your attempt at making some _other_ discussions, and talking about laws is probably political at a time when we've had enough of that.
I see them sort of like Harley Davidson -- great for the look and name, but there are much better options for a bike TBH.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to NuSkooler <=-
I see them sort of like Harley Davidson -- great for the look and name, but there are much better options for a bike TBH.
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America.
Not just someone, but I think there are multiple others that could be considered better than Fender.
But I don't know. I read about it in context of the idea of a law to protect artistic styles. Which... seems like a bad idea, but I apprec your attempt at making some _other_ discussions, and talking about la probably political at a time when we've had enough of that.
The point wasn't to talk about laws, but rather the Fender company making arguably a dick move.
Yeah, I don't know the legal basis for it - copyright, if it is,
typically has to be defended immediately. The horse has left the barn,
so to speak on Stratocaster clones.
NuSkooler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Maybe they wanted to support America.
You mean like global trade of ideas and goods?
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods.
What a concept.
Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I _think_ you mean patents, though I think these may be getting into
some more nebulous concepts where it's not especially either.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods.
What a concept.
Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.
No. I mean like Americans supporting America, by buying "local".
do; I'm mostly interested in it because of the intersection with patent/copyright/etc.
I've heard Fender's guitar headstock shape is patented (or copyrighted?) in the
US, whereas their guitar body shapes are not. That's why you (generally) don't
see any other guitar makers making guitars with the exact same headstock shape >in the US, but plenty with Strat & Tele bodies.
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went
with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of
their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American
goods. What a concept.
Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.
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Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went
with Harley when they realized the resale value at the end of
their police life was higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American
goods. What a concept.
Maybe, but they stated financial reasons.
That is what I have also read, re: the headstock vs. the body shapes.
I suspect, but am not sure, that part of this has to do with them changing ownership over the years. Mr. Fender left at some point and actually started another guitar company... I think he has since passed on?
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley
when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was
higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods. What a concept.
I _think_ you mean patents, though I think these may be getting into some more nebulous concepts where it's not especially either.
I think you're right - I suppose I was thinking of implied consent - if you don't actively pursue remedies, that could hamper your ability to
sue companies for patent infringement?
I am most obviously not a lawyer.
I've heard Fender's guitar headstock shape is patented (or copyrighted?) in the US, whereas their guitar body shapes are not. That's why you (generally) don't see any other guitar makers making guitars with the exact same headstock shape in the US, but plenty with Strat & Tele
bodies.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Fender guitar lawsuits in Europe
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jun 11 2026 08:43 pm
Oakland PD looked at BMW and Harley motorcycles, then went with Harley
when they realized the resale value at the end of their police life was
higher. I don't understand it myself.
Maybe they wanted to support America. You know, buy American goods. What a concept.
I feel like it can be difficult to know what's actually built in the US anymore. Even if the company is an American company, the product is sometimes assembled in other countries (cars are a prime example, where cars from an American brand might be assembled in Mexico or the US, for instance). And even when they're assembled in the US, some of the
parts are often made overseas.
Sure. Yes, I know that's all true. I was just speaking more generally, as in buying from an American company instead of a foreign one. Especially perhaps when the buying is done by a government agency such as a large city police force.
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