• Your favourite games as a kid / teen?

    From Oli@21:3/102 to All on Mon May 31 19:30:24 2021
    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    The first games that come to mind:

    - Marbles
    - Mastermind
    - MAD Magazine card game
    - Barbarossa (Spiel des Jahres 1988)
    - Shadowrun RPG
    - Talislanta RPG
    - ...

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  • From tallship@21:2/104 to Oli on Mon May 31 13:25:58 2021
    On 31 May 2021, Oli said the following...

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?


    I think one of my favorite games was 'rock fights'.

    I was really good at that an we used to play that in the field behind my
    house.

    We also built a little fort where a couple of the neighbor girls taught me
    how to play um.... well, I guess I figured it out at 11yrs old lolz.

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  • From Lupine Furmen@21:4/102 to Oli on Mon May 31 16:23:46 2021
    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    AD&D 2nd Ed
    Toon RPG
    Spell Jammer RPG
    Uno
    Connect Four
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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Oli on Mon May 31 19:07:00 2021
    Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    Wow, making me think that far back??

    Chutes & Ladders
    Go fish
    Mouse Trap

    That's about all that comes to mind at the moment.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Oli on Mon May 31 20:37:00 2021
    Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    The first games that come to mind:

    - Marbles
    - Mastermind
    - MAD Magazine card game
    - Barbarossa (Spiel des Jahres 1988)
    - Shadowrun RPG
    - Talislanta RPG

    Monopoly
    Uno
    Cribbage
    Checkers
    Ouija Board



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Tue Jun 1 17:44:00 2021
    On 05-31-21 19:30, Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    I used to like a lot of card games like rummy, 500,etc. There were also board games like Monopoly. Went through a backgammon phase at one stage too.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Vk3jed on Tue Jun 1 05:05:04 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Vk3jed to Oli on Tue Jun 01 2021 05:44 pm

    On 05-31-21 19:30, Oli wrote to All <=-

    What were your favourite (non-video) games when you were younger?

    I used to like a lot of card games like rummy, 500,etc. There were also board games like Monopo
    Went through a backgammon phase at one stage too.


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    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is objetively a very bad game. The
    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long grind of players being
    eliminated one after the other with close to no player input to the system.

    If I had to name some non-videogame influential games from my childhood, I would name Warhammer RPG
    . Knizia's Lord of the Rings was also influential.

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  • From Lightman@21:3/143 to Arelor on Tue Jun 1 23:32:20 2021
    Hi Arelor,

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is
    objetively a very bad game. The


    I'm not one to argue, but to say 'objectively' might stretch credulity a bit
    - lol. I don't disagree with your sentiment - if you ended up on the wrong
    side post 'saddle'....

    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long

    .... you spent the next two (ten?!) hours pissed and ready to flip the table
    - it could ruin your day. But... - subjectively - there was **something** to this arrival at the 'saddle' which had all of us coming back for more, even though my older sibs always kicked my arse. What?! I dunno - the thought of holding a monopoly on the 'green' states and seeing your friends fall into
    the trap of needing to rent from your hotels? Yeah - I got it, the game
    sucked, but looking back on life in the 80s (my perspective) - its what you
    had and how you hung out with friends when it was too temperate to run about sardines / hide-and-seek. hehe

    I'll give you that the game sucked (from my perspective) - I dunno if I will say 'objectively'. Sometimes I wish the kids of this generation would play a crappy game like Monopoly, and spend time face to face with friends for the hours (short-version) or, sometimes, days it would take to finish a game with six players.

    So... maybe I find myself in agreement after all.... but I'm glad the game existed. It was fun (socially), and easy to approach for a kid who didn't
    have parents to teach them game-theory.

    lol

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Arelor on Wed Jun 2 18:52:00 2021
    On 06-01-21 05:05, Arelor wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is
    objetively a very bad game. The
    players get to build their empire with some negotiations going on
    during the first part until a
    saddle point (game theory) is reached, and then it is a two hour long grind of players being
    eliminated one after the other with close to no player input to the system.

    It was still an influential game.

    If I had to name some non-videogame influential games from my
    childhood, I would name Warhammer RPG
    . Knizia's Lord of the Rings was also influential.

    I haven't played either of those.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Lightman on Wed Jun 2 15:11:20 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Lightman to Arelor on Tue Jun 01 2021 11:32 pm

    Hi Arelor,

    I am sad so many people is bringing Monopoly up, because it is objetively a very bad game. The


    I'm not one to argue, but to say 'objectively' might stretch credulity a bit - lol. I don't disagree with your sentiment - if you ended up on the wrong side post 'saddle'....


    It has nothing to do with winning or losing. If you are in a dominant possition post saddle you are still going to get bored to death.

    Board game design is so advanced and has been iterated over so often that whether the game succeds or fails at achieving its design goals is quite obvious. Board games can have many design goals - MOnopolyç's was promoting Georgism - but any one that aims to be entertaining needs one of the following things:

    * To offer meaningful decisions to the player, so the player gets involved and sucked into the game. Or some intelectual challenge at least.
    * To offer tension, so the player is bitting his nails because the next die roll is the difference between life and death.

    Monopoly does this for a while, then it runs dry. Which is why I categorize it as objetively bad. Bonus ponts because it failed at educating people about Georgism too.

    Now compare this to a non-mainstream family friendly game like 7 Wonders:

    * You get a meaningful decision to make every single turn.
    * No player gets eliminated, so everybody has fun until the very end.
    * You need to adapt to what others players are doing (intelectual challenge).

    Heck, even a game so basic such as Ticket to Ride has these.






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  • From Lupine Furmen@21:4/102 to Lightman on Thu Jun 3 08:25:04 2021
    .... you spent the next two (ten?!) hours pissed and ready to flip the

    2-10 hours??? You light weights!!! I was in a game with a friend of mine in the early 80's that lasted for 2, count em TWO, days! :D It was the most fun game I've ever played!

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Oli on Fri Jun 11 08:02:58 2021
    Ha, man I'm replying to alot of old posts .. I'm so far behind on FTN's. But throwing mine out there anyway ..

    -Astroids (atari?) and Arcade
    -Defender Arcade
    -Ms. Pac Man Arcade
    -Lord of the Realms C64
    -Commando C64
    -Dragons Lair Arcade
    -Mortal Combat ummm... anywhere
    -Age of Empires (umm.. was I still a kid? probably not ..)

    and many more.

    -tG

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  • From Cobradile@21:1/158 to Oli on Fri Aug 13 11:12:04 2021
    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Cobradile on Fri Aug 13 08:30:08 2021
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Cobradile to Oli on Fri Aug 13 2021 11:12 am

    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

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    I used to play a lot of Intelect, which is a Spanish clone of Scrabble. I also liked Knizia's The Lord of the Rings. In addition, I used to play a lot of Risk. There was also a card racing game called The Thousand Milestones which was fun.

    Nowadays I find those games very basic and not that good (with the exception of Knizia's). There are just much better board games in the wild.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Cobradile on Sat Aug 14 13:54:36 2021
    On 13 Aug 2021 at 11:12a, Cobradile pondered and said...

    I never played many non-video games as a child, but I remember enjoying Buckaroo and Uno!

    Uno I played a lot of.

    I also played a lot of Atari games when younger. Space Invaders being a favourite :)

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  • From alterra@21:4/165 to all on Mon Aug 29 10:12:44 2022
    One of my favorite games when i was younger was to simply poke my sibling
    till they get annoyed :D good times.

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  • From MissChief@21:2/125 to All on Mon Aug 29 09:15:04 2022
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  • From esc@21:4/173 to alterra on Mon Aug 29 10:19:05 2022
    One of my favorite games when i was younger was to simply poke my sibling till they get annoyed :D good times.

    and crossing the invisible line between the two of you in the back seat of the car, I presume? That was an old favorite of mine :P

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to esc on Tue Aug 30 14:03:00 2022
    On 08-29-22 10:19, esc wrote to alterra <=-

    One of my favorite games when i was younger was to simply poke my sibling till they get annoyed :D good times.

    and crossing the invisible line between the two of you in the back seat
    of the car, I presume? That was an old favorite of mine :P

    Don't forget "Corners" - great game to play when the back seat was full. :D


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to MissChief on Mon Aug 29 21:34:03 2022
    Space Quest 1. The first game I played on my first computer.

    Space Quest 3 was the first game I ever beat! I love those old Sierra titles. My favorite as a kid was Hero's Quest (later Quest for Glory). My dad loved Leisure Suit Larry and when he wasn't around, I would play it (when I could figure out the "prove your age" quiz hehe).

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to alterra on Tue Aug 30 07:06:55 2022
    On 29 Aug 2022, alterra said the following...

    One of my favorite games when i was younger was to simply poke my sibling till they get annoyed :D good times.


    Pretty sure everyone that has an/a sibling(s) fully understands.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 07:08:34 2022
    On 29 Aug 2022, MissChief said the following...
    Space Quest 1. The first game I played on my first computer.
    --

    Are you getting the new Space Quest game? I have a friend that has been waiting quite some time for it while its in development. I know they had to change the name and can't quite remember what it was now. Also the new Monkey Island is coming out Whoot 19th is coming quick :D.

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 08:28:03 2022
    Space Quest 1. The first game I played on my first computer.

    Mine would be the game that I first seen on a friends computer that made me go and get my own 486dx33, The game was Doom! Thought it was the coolest thing that I could call someone elses computer and play against them.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Irish_Monk on Wed Aug 31 01:02:19 2022
    Mine would be the game that I first seen on a friends computer that made me go and get my own 486dx33, The game was Doom! Thought it was the coolest thing that I could call someone elses computer and play against them.


    My favourite game too. Still is.

    I played it on a 386 DX/20 with 4M of RAM. Barely ran, barely, and initially with PC Speaker sound and Adlib music. Nevertheless, I liked the setting, the theme, and the immersion, despite the low framerate.

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  • From MissChief@21:2/125 to All on Tue Aug 30 06:42:17 2022
    claw Wrote in message:r
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    A new Space Quest? Wow that would be awesome. I haven't been
    keeping up on gaming news lately so I'm a bit in the
    dark.

    I did hear though that the couple who worked on King's Quest were
    working on a new game, I don't remember what it ws
    though.
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  • From MissChief@21:2/108 to esc on Tue Aug 30 15:49:13 2022
    Space Quest 3 was the first game I ever beat! I love those old Sierra titles. My favorite as a kid was Hero's Quest (later Quest for Glory).
    My dad loved Leisure Suit Larry and when he wasn't around, I would play
    it (when I could figure out the "prove your age" quiz hehe).

    Some of those questions were hard, especially when you're not from the U.S. I think some would still be a challenge for me.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Irish_Monk on Tue Aug 30 08:51:36 2022
    Re: Re: Your favourite games as a kid / teen?
    By: Irish_Monk to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 2022 08:28 am

    Mine would be the game that I first seen on a friends computer that made me go and get my own 486dx33, The game was Doom! Thought it was the coolest thing that I could call someone elses computer and play against them.

    I liked playing Doom that way too. At the time, I was 13 and hadn't started working yet, so I couldn't afford to buy my own PC - but I had a hand-me-down PC with a 386SX-16 at the time (I don't remember how much RAM, maybe 2MB). Doom on that ran super slow, though not totally unplayable. I had to make the drawable screen size as small as possible in order to maximize the frame rate. Later, after I started running a BBS, I would sometimes play Doom over the modem with one of my BBS users, which was fun. That was in 1995 - and I think by then I had been given a hand-me-down 386DX-40 (on a new motherboard, which I had help installing in my PC at the time). Doom ran a bit better on that, but I think still a bit too slowly.

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  • From Chris Costakis@21:5/103 to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 20:55:22 2022
    A new Space Quest? Wow that would be awesome. I haven't been
    keeping up on gaming news lately so I'm a bit in the
    dark.

    SpaceVenture... supposedly releasing September 16th.. after a decade in development!

    I did hear though that the couple who worked on King's Quest were
    working on a new game, I don't remember what it ws
    though.

    A remake of Colossal Cave, both for PC and the Meta Quest 2. And also supposedly the Nintendo Switch.

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  • From Chris Costakis@21:5/103 to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 20:56:44 2022
    Some of those questions were hard, especially when you're not from the U.S. I think some would still be a challenge for me.

    Alt-X bypassed the questions in the AGI version of Leisure Suit Larry, while Control-Alt-X bypassed them in the SCI remake. Talk about things I wish I knew as a kid!

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Vk3jed on Tue Aug 30 21:38:30 2022
    Don't forget "Corners" - great game to play when the back seat was full. :D

    And if you want to really annoy your parents, play "I Spy" on a long road trip.

    This enough would convince me not to have kids.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to MissChief on Tue Aug 30 21:39:06 2022
    Some of those questions were hard, especially when you're not from the U.S. I think some would still be a challenge for me.

    Oh, yeah, I can't typically get through them without a little googling. And I'm only moderately below average intelligence.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Thu Sep 1 00:04:43 2022
    Mine would be the game that I first seen on a friends computer that m me go and get my own 486dx33, The game was Doom! Thought it was the coolest thing that I could call someone elses computer and play again them.

    I liked playing Doom that way too. At the time, I was 13 and hadn't started working yet, so I couldn't afford to buy my own PC - but I had a hand-me-down PC with a 386SX-16 at the time (I don't remember how much RAM, maybe 2MB). Doom on that ran super slow, though not totally unplayable. I had to make the drawable screen size as small as possible in order to maximize the frame rate. Later, after I started running a
    BBS, I would sometimes play Doom over the modem with one of my BBS
    users, which was fun. That was in 1995 - and I think by then I had been given a hand-me-down 386DX-40 (on a new motherboard, which I had help installing in my PC at the time). Doom ran a bit better on that, but I think still a bit too slowly.


    Unlikely it had 2M of RAM. Doom required a minimum of 4M to run, wouldn't run on anything else.

    I ran it with 4M of RAM on a 386DX 20, in low detail, and had to shrink the screen size by one step, although when I got an SVGA card, I was able to run it, slowly, without shrinking the screen.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to esc on Thu Sep 1 20:44:00 2022
    On 08-30-22 21:38, esc wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Don't forget "Corners" - great game to play when the back seat was full. :D

    And if you want to really annoy your parents, play "I Spy" on a long
    road trip.

    Haha. There's another game that can be a bit of fun with a few kids on board - "Windmills". Not sure if anyone else knows that one, but the goal is to try and spot windmills in the landscale. If one is sighted, whoever is first to yell "WINDMILL" gets a point. Bonus double points if it's running and "SPINNING WINDMILL" is said instead. :)

    This enough would convince me not to have kids.

    Haha :D


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to boraxman on Thu Sep 1 07:59:34 2022
    On 01 Sep 2022, boraxman said the following...
    Unlikely it had 2M of RAM. Doom required a minimum of 4M to run,
    wouldn't run on anything else.

    I ran it with 4M of RAM on a 386DX 20, in low detail, and had to shrink the screen size by one step, although when I got an SVGA card, I was
    able to run it, slowly, without shrinking the screen.


    I can't really say I had any that were just the favorite. What about all the adventure game? Monkey Island is about to release the newest one on 9/19.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Vk3jed on Thu Sep 1 22:51:05 2022
    Haha. There's another game that can be a bit of fun with a few kids on board - "Windmills". Not sure if anyone else knows that one, but the
    goal is to try and spot windmills in the landscale. If one is sighted, whoever is first to yell "WINDMILL" gets a point. Bonus double points
    if it's running and "SPINNING WINDMILL" is said instead. :)

    Do the new windmill generators work? The big metal ones?

    The first windmill I have ever seen in aside from these was in Bruges, Belgium :P

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to esc on Fri Sep 2 20:36:00 2022
    On 09-01-22 22:51, esc wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Do the new windmill generators work? The big metal ones?

    Now that's a good question. Last time I played the game, there were no wind turbines along the route, but in the last several years, they have become a lot more common.

    The first windmill I have ever seen in aside from these was in Bruges, Belgium :P

    Windmills for pumping water are common on farms here. They are generally on a triangular tower with a set of many blades arranged in a circle..


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