If you were pulling from github and compiling yourself, it was probably looki for 'mygolded.h', which per the first step of the compile instructions you ne to edit 'mygolded.__h' to personalize it, and rename it to 'mygolded.h'.

If it were an 'h' file, wouldn't that blow up the compile? /

Also, actually editing the config file and making sure paths and whatever els is correct is also helpful, as it may not successfully run with the default config.

This is on linux. I didn't use the default config, I did change it.

Seeing as the program doesn't even give a message to say *which* file is missing -- I suspect the message I am getting is the OS's default reaction
to a condition code -- it doesn't make me really want to use the program.
One of the first things I learned as a programmer is that if you have an
error opening a file you need to tell the user/operator which file it is
that is the problem -- make them search for it and you are getting called
in the middle of the night. ;)

Mike
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Hey Mike!

On Sat, Mar 07 2026 12:08:00 -0600, you wrote:

If you were pulling from github and compiling yourself, it was
probably looki for 'mygolded.h', which per the first step of the
compile instructions you ne to edit 'mygolded.__h' to personalize
it, and rename it to 'mygolded.h'.

If it were an 'h' file, wouldn't that blow up the compile? /

From golded-plus/docs/building.txt:

"Now go to golded3 and copy mygolded.__h to mygolded.h and adjust it for yourself (put your name, FTN address and e-mail). Goto root again."

Question it all you want, it is the first step you should do before compiling, per the instructions.

This is on linux. I didn't use the default config, I did change it.

Seeing as the program doesn't even give a message to say *which*
file is missing -- I suspect the message I am getting is the OS's
default reaction to a condition code -- it doesn't make me really
want to use the program. One of the first things I learned as a
programmer is that if you have an error opening a file you need to
tell the user/operator which file it is that is the problem -- make
them search for it and you are getting called in the middle of the
night. ;)

It most likely does give a message, but I think it clears the screen before you can see it (since this was originally made long before /fast computers/). Try piping your command to a text file to try and capture what it says.

Otherwise, if you don't want to use the program.. don't. It works just fine on other systems, including mine *shrug*. I'm just giving you the information you need (and I've gained) to get it to compile and run properly. Please don't shoot the messenger.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Fusion!

On Mon, Mar 09 2026 19:59:42 -0500, you wrote:

https://github.com/golded-plus/golded-plus/releases

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't use something dated 2018 when the sources were last updated in 2025. ;)

not really sure who this 'dukelsky' fellow is, but i could see
confusing this with being 'official'.

Michael Dukelsky, one of the last maintainers of Golded who, if I remember right, has left the hobby. I think there might be only one "active" maintainer left, and he's been busy with other things. Vitaliy, I believe his name is.

could probably send a message on github asking for those to be
removed if they cause people (and those who support them) problems..

Yep, definitely could! I use the source and follow docs/building.txt without issue.

If someone has issues with an outdated .deb package and they don't care to report it, but instead would rather shake their fist, call it names and scream at the sky, it's not really my problem. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Vorlon!

On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 13:11:02 +1100, you wrote:

It must be so crap that a lot of sysop's use it every day!

C'mon. It's so crap sysops that have been using it for decades just shouldn't use it!

I want my money back.........

You paid? ;)

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Well, would you look at that. Looks a lot like my tearline!

Regards,
Nick

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Hey MIKE!

On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 08:35:00 +0000, you wrote:

That still wouldn't fix the original issue... that it abends with a file
not found error and does't say which one.

Compiling the latest code very well might fix your original issue.

Attempting to reinstall a program "the right way" that doesn't give
proper error messages is a waste of time. No thanks.

Your choice. You being stubborn and arguing about this for days when you could easily have a working program had you listened was also a waste of time. You're right, though. Everyone else is wrong (the tearline tells the tale wonderfully).

Regards,
Nick

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Your choice. You being stubborn and arguing about this for days when you coul easily have a working program had you listened was also a waste of time. You' right, though. Everyone else is wrong (the tearline tells the tale wonderfully).

This conversation has continued not because I want it to, but because you
keep busting my balls about it. I even told you in the message you replied
to that I was no longer looking at using Golded so that should tell you we
are long past the end of it, but you keep it going... not just with this message, but with jabs at me in other messages.

If it isn't "your problem," why do *you* keep it going?

So yeah, in this case, we have reached the point where, despite whatever initial mistake I did make (missing a files somewhere), we have long passed where I am the one in the wrong, and have got to he point where it is the person who has kept the dead subject going... and that'd be you.

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Hey MIKE!

On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 08:17:00 +0000, you wrote:

This conversation has continued not because I want it to, but because
you keep busting my balls about it. I even told you in the message you replied to that I was no longer looking at using Golded so that should
tell you we are long past the end of it, but you keep it going... not
just with this message, but with jabs at me in other messages.

You were publicly stating that the software doesn't work, and is "POS-ware". I'm simply defending said software that many sysops have (and currently still use) used for decades just fine. When you finally admitted you installed an 8 year old .deb package, the correct instructions were given to you to install it correctly. You didn't want to do that.

Calling software a POS in a public forum just because it doesn't work for you, without actually seeking help to get it working.. while it works for many others, isn't good for the software, and is pretty immature on your part.

In other words, don't shit on other people's work just because it didn't work for you. If you still feel the need anyway, be prepared to be replied to. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick

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In other words, don't shit on other people's work just because it didn't work for you. If you still feel the need anyway, be prepared to be replied to. *shrug*

And here we are a third time. Don't come at me that I "continue to
complain" when it is you that is determined to keep the discussion going.

I didn't shit on it because it didn't work. I shit on it because it has
poor error messaging.

"You used an older version!" - it wasn't older than 1989, which is when I
took my first programming class and learned that "file not found" (vs.
"*this* file not found") means you are not using proper coding technique.

"But it's free!" - yeah, so? The program I decided to use instead, which
is also *free*, was able to tell me what file it couldn't find when I fat-fingered a config file. I fixed *my* mistake and went on.

So, I have proof that proper coding technique, when it comes to such error messaging, has existed since 1989, exists in free projects, and helps users track down *THEIR* errors.

Unless you are someone who codes like that, I am baffled by your reaction
and your persistence in keeping this idiotic conversation going.
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