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  • Icy Board 0.1.5 release

    From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to All on Mon Mar 17 00:41:42 2025
    It's a rewrite of PCBoard with all pros & cons.

    May be easier to set up than the original PCBoard in some ways but PCBoard was known for it's hard and unintuitive setup.

    So IcyBoard takes another approach that mystic/synchronet/enigma where you've a BBS with all bells and whistles after a small setup process.

    OTOH it's a platform to run PPEs - so you've access to thousands of plugin options to configure it. It looks, feels and works like PCBoard - just on modern OS.

    I've a new PPL compiler - which is way better than anything available for PCBoard - it can produce PPEs for any old PCBoard version and the language got extended a bit. (IcyBoard extended PPL in many ways - see docs.)

    And IMO the best PPE decompiler available - so if you need a decompiler for PPE - take this :).

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/latest

    Improved documentation a bit https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Mon Mar 17 11:38:10 2025
    It's a rewrite of PCBoard with all pros & cons. https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/latest

    Very happy you're continuing work on icy_*... I'm following along as I want to make sure this PCB rewrite gets archived @ 2oFB. Thanks for the update, Omni.



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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Omnibrain on Mon Mar 17 15:10:54 2025
    On 17 Mar 2025, Omnibrain said the following...

    It's a rewrite of PCBoard with all pros & cons.

    May be easier to set up than the original PCBoard in some ways but
    PCBoard was known for it's hard and unintuitive setup.

    So IcyBoard takes another approach that mystic/synchronet/enigma where you've a BBS with all bells and whistles after a small setup process.

    OTOH it's a platform to run PPEs - so you've access to thousands of
    plugin options to configure it. It looks, feels and works like PCBoard - just on modern OS.

    I've a new PPL compiler - which is way better than anything available for PCBoard - it can produce PPEs for any old PCBoard version and the
    language got extended a bit. (IcyBoard extended PPL in many ways - see docs.)

    And IMO the best PPE decompiler available - so if you need a decompiler for PPE - take this :).

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/latest

    Improved documentation a bit https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board

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    Just wanted to drop a note about the install process. I installed icy_board on Ubuntu 24.04, 64bit. I used the source files and installed both Rust and icy_board. Used the installer for rust from their web page.

    I downloaded the icy_board file into /Downloads. Then unzipped
    automatically into /Downloads/icy_board-0.1.5. Switched to icy_board-0.1.5
    and ran "cargo build --release" with no problems.

    Where I ran into issues was trying to find "icbsetup." I found it in the /Downloads/icy_board.../target/release subdirectory. That took a while to track down. Once I ran ./icbsetup, things went smoothly. I have it running (not online) and was able to run some configuration changes.

    I like what I see so far and will be keeping up with your progress. Last question is do you have a process for upgrading my current install or will I just have to download and restart compiling?

    |11ogg
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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to ogg on Tue Mar 18 00:22:10 2025
    I like what I see so far and will be keeping up with your progress. Last question is do you have a process for upgrading my current install or
    will I just have to download and restart compiling?

    You took the build from source approach - this is ok for ppl who want it but I recommend pulling the git repo and not downloading the src.

    "git pull" will update the src.

    I release compiled versions for all major platforms to get around the rust install party. However building from source is required for other platforms - arm linux for example.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Tue Mar 18 00:26:28 2025
    Very happy you're continuing work on icy_*... I'm following along as I want to make sure this PCB rewrite gets archived @ 2oFB. Thanks for the update, Omni.

    y wanted to get icy_term more focus but icy_board is atm the thing I'm playing around with. It's close to be usable :). Should be able to run the majority of .PPE files and the PPL dev tools are in a state where I can recommend them even for old PCBoard development.

    Compiler is compatible and produces better/optimzed .PPE files. Made much fun developing compiler/runtime/decompiler for PPL.

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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to Omnibrain on Tue Mar 18 10:25:20 2025
    y wanted to get icy_term more focus but icy_board is atm the thing I'm playing around with. It's close to be usable :). Should be able to run
    the majority of .PPE files and the PPL dev tools are in a state where
    I can recommend them even for old PCBoard development.

    That's pretty cool. I wasn't sure when i tested it a while back if it has
    a tosser/scanner for import/export of FTN mail.

    |07|02/|10\|03/ |11j0hnny a1pha |03\|10/|02\|07


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  • From Omnibrain@21:1/121 to j0hnny a1pha on Tue Mar 18 22:37:19 2025


    j0hnny a1pha around Tuesday, March 18th...
    That's pretty cool. I wasn't sure when i tested it a while back if it has a tosser/scanner for import/export of FTN mail.

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/blob/main/docs/roadmap.md

    Still not sure what's needed for FTN - need to learn how that's done.
    So this can take a while.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Omnibrain on Wed Mar 19 20:35:13 2025
    BY: Omnibrain (21:1/121)

    |11O|09> |10Still not sure what's needed for FTN - need to learn how that's done.|07
    |11O|09> |10So this can take a while.|07
    does it use the pc board message base format? if so is there a windows or linux based tosser?



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  • From j0hnny a1pha@21:4/158 to Utopian Galt on Fri Mar 21 16:42:27 2025
    does it use the pc board message base format? if so is there a windows
    or linux based tosser?

    According to the github page: Message base format changed to JAM.

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board

    Good info there about where it's at in development. Releases are here, including Win, Mac, Linux, etc.:

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases

    Seeing these modernization projects come to life (and moving toward
    'production ready') is so cool. Especially the compatibility with
    old-school PPEs...

    Thanks, Mike!

    |07|02/|10\|03/ |11j0hnny a1pha |03\|10/|02\|07


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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Utopian Galt on Sun Mar 23 14:03:43 2025
    does it use the pc board message base format? if so is there a windows
    or linux based tosser?

    ATM there is no tosser - see roadmap. The current message base format is JAM. But it can be changed. I don't have much clue about the current state of message base formats what's the best etc.

    Nor about tosser/mailer - never set up a fido network thing. Probably QWK networks are ez to implement since I added qwk import/export already.

    I still have things to do - but mail exchange is pretty high on the todo list just need to find some mood/patience to implement it.

    It's interesting that I get asked that a lot - no one seems to care about the PPEs :( or the PPL side of the project.

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to OMNIBRAIN on Mon Mar 24 08:27:00 2025
    It's interesting that I get asked that a lot - no one seems to care about the PPEs :( or the PPL side of the project.

    Not ever being a PC Board sysop, I am not sure what those are but I have
    seen folks in BBS forums that seem excited that this new project will
    support the PPEs from the original product.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Dumas Walker on Mon Mar 24 11:26:49 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to OMNIBRAIN <=-

    It's interesting that I get asked that a lot - no one seems to care about
    the
    PPEs :( or the PPL side of the project.

    Not ever being a PC Board sysop, I am not sure what those are but I
    have seen folks in BBS forums that seem excited that this new project
    will support the PPEs from the original product.

    PPEs are generally "add-on" utils/doors that add or improve features.
    Same idea as the various .js scripts for SBBS (such as DigDist stuff),
    and (I think) the 'MPL' language/scripts for Mystic.



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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Dumas Walker on Mon Mar 24 20:30:36 2025
    BY: Dumas Walker (21:1/175)

    |11DW|09> |10Not ever being a PC Board sysop, I am not sure what those are but I have|07
    |11DW|09> |10seen folks in BBS forums that seem excited that this new project will|07
    |11DW|09> |10support the PPEs from the original product.|07
    I wonder if there is a huge archive of PPE's still preserved today.


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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Utopian Galt on Mon Mar 24 23:18:11 2025
    Not ever being a PC Board sysop, I am not sure what those are but I ha seen folks in BBS forums that seem excited that this new project will support the PPEs from the original product.
    I wonder if there is a huge archive of PPE's still preserved today.


    Here's one link I found: https://rob.synchro.net/files/BBS.Archives/PCboard-PPE-s-A-C/

    A quick search turned up many more.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 25 00:18:56 2025
    Hi

    Not ever being a PC Board sysop, I am not sure what those are but I have seen folks in BBS forums that seem excited that this new project will support the PPEs from the original product.

    Didn't see it yet :). But it already does support PPEs - as well as PPL development. The PPL development part is already ready - was my main focus.

    Would even make sense for current pcboard installations to decompile PPE and recompile them - they're running faster & take less memory then :).

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