• still be bashing

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to All on Thu Jun 4 17:00:24 2015
    -={ Thursday, June 04 2015, 10:00:24 -0700 }=-

    Hey All!

    Nothing to be alarmed about, just testing connectivity since I haven't posted here in quite some time now. Has anyone?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 20:35:16 2015
    Hi,

    On 2015-06-04 17:00:00, Maurice Kinal wrote to All:
    about: "still be bashing":

    @MSGID: 1:153/7001.0 55708428
    @TID: WeBeBashing 2.9
    -={ Thursday, June 04 2015, 10:00:24 -0700 }=-

    Hey All!

    Nothing to be alarmed about, just testing connectivity since I haven't posted here in quite some time now. Has anyone?

    I had to create the area, and toss this message from the bad area.
    That's how active it is... ;)


    Life is good,
    Maurice

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    712/848
    SEEN-BY: 770/0 1 100 200 772/0 1 2320/105
    @PATH: 153/7001 7715 140/1 261/38 712/848 770/1

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 4 19:19:48 2015
    -={ donderdag, juni 04 2015, 21:19:49 +0200 }=-

    Hey Wilfred!

    I had to create the area, and toss this message from the bad
    area.
    That's how active it is... ;)

    Way more active than I was expecting to be honest. I was sure I'd be talking to myself, nevermind getting a reply from an European node advertising windows based ftn software. ;-)

    Please note the Dutch DateTime stamp between the "-={ }=-" characters on the first printable line of the body of this message. Hopefully it is acceptable, and it should be accurate to within a second of me hitting the reply key to your reply to the date and time in the Netherlands. I've been working on it for fidonet messaging for a couple weeks now and am gearing it towards the "To"
    (you in this case) user's timezone and language where and when the script can determine that information (eg nodelist).

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.1 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 12:32:56 2015
    On 06/04/15, Maurice Kinal said the following...

    Nothing to be alarmed about, just testing connectivity since I haven't posted here in quite some time now. Has anyone?

    I dunno, but I just got here..

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Alan Ianson on Thu Jun 4 20:10:32 2015
    -={ jeudi, juin 04 2015, 13:10:33 -0700 }=-

    Hey Alan!

    I dunno, but I just got here..

    I was expecting you ... eventually. Hopefully someone(s) more responsible will
    show up soon and set the tone but offhand I believe this echoarea might be fine
    for what I think this echoarea is/was about.

    The extra-special DateTime stamp above still needs work but it is getting the utf offset correct for you (PST8PDT) despite the language defaulting to fr_CA (French-Canadian). I am hoping to have that 'fixed' soon ... except where it is valid that is. I am guessing you to be en_CA.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 16:41:18 2015

    04 Jun 15 17:00, you wrote to All:

    Nothing to be alarmed about, just testing connectivity since I haven't posted here in quite some time now. Has anyone?

    yeah, daemon getsman (sry if i spelled it wrong) was looking for some help with
    some shell scripting stuff back in january... i pointed him your way but i don't think he made it over to the linux echo...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 23:19:52 2015
    Hi,

    On 2015-06-04 19:19:49, Maurice Kinal wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Re: still be bashing":

    -={ donderdag, juni 04 2015, 21:19:49 +0200 }=-

    Hey Wilfred!

    I had to create the area, and toss this message from the bad area.
    That's how active it is... ;)

    Way more active than I was expecting to be honest. I was sure I'd be talking to myself, nevermind getting a reply from an European node advertising windows based ftn software. ;-)

    Mine is a mixed system. I haven't found the time yet to convert my tosser to compile under linux. (Work is getting in the way ;)). The windows stuff is running in a virtual XP on this linux box.

    Please note the Dutch DateTime stamp between the "-={ }=-" characters
    on the first printable line of the body of this message. Hopefully it
    is acceptable,

    We are writing and pronouncing the date with the day number first, so that should be:
    "4 juni 2015"

    and it should be accurate to within a second of me hitting the reply
    key to your reply to the date and time in the Netherlands.

    If your system time is in UTC, it is within the second.

    I've been working on it for fidonet messaging for a couple weeks now
    and am gearing it towards the "To" (you in this case) user's timezone
    and language where and when the script can determine that information
    (eg nodelist).


    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:393/68 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 16:24:44 2015
    * An ongoing debate between Maurice Kinal and All rages on ...

    Nothing to be alarmed about, just testing connectivity since I haven't posted here in quite some time now. Has anyone?

    You're the first in quite some time (g) but super! This area was created as an adjunct to Batpower, but strictly for Unix/Linux OS's. Go for it :)

    I only use linux for backup tasks, and then seldom, so I'm probably not the best moderator (g) but things are so quiet ... holler if you need.

    At the time I started it, I was auto-booting back and forth from DOS to Linux during the day for Internet jobs (mostly using iRex under linux). Running Linux
    was a hoot, absolutely loved it, but can't do that from WinXP AFAIK :) but it has native internet so ... lol

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to mark lewis on Thu Jun 4 21:49:44 2015
    -={ jeudi, juin 04 2015, 14:49:44 -0700 }=-

    Hey mark!

    i pointed him your way but i don't think he made it over to the
    linux echo...

    He made it but had issues communicating at the time and never got back to me. I see him in other echoes more recently so I suspect he got fixed up wrt fidonet communications.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 4 22:25:46 2015
    -={ vrijdag, juni 05 2015, 00:25:47 +0200 }=-

    Hey Wilfred!

    I haven't found the time yet to convert my tosser to compile
    under linux. (Work is getting in the way ;)).

    Yeah, right. Blame it on work. ;-)

    We are writing and pronouncing the date with the day number
    first, so that should be: "4 juni 2015"

    I don't believe any locale formats it like the extra-special DateTime stamp on the first line. Usually - if indeed not always - the day is numeric characters
    and null padded when single digits (ie 1-9 becomes 01-09). I am more curious about the spelling and if indeed the alpha day and months are correct as Dutch days and months. The format I chose had nothing to do with locales and more to
    do with possible translation issues.

    If your system time is in UTC, it is within the second.

    Yes it is UTC as well as the ftn datetime stamp in the message header, and the system time is updated with ntpd servers at the moment so that is where my confidence in up to the second accuracy comes from ... for now. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Ben Ritchey on Thu Jun 4 22:37:06 2015
    -={ jeudi, juin 04 2015, 15:37:07 -0700 }=-

    Hey Ben!

    Go for it :)

    Excellent! That is what I wanted to hear.

    We haven't talked for ages. Nice to see everything is still up to speed here despite the lack of usage. I promise not to be abusive ... much. ;-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 4 22:16:20 2015
    Hello Maurice,

    I dunno, but I just got here..

    I was expecting you ... eventually. Hopefully someone(s) more responsible will show up soon and set the tone but offhand I believe this echoarea might be fine for what I think this echoarea is/was about.

    Yep, AFIK we should be good in this area.

    The extra-special DateTime stamp above still needs work but it is
    getting the utf offset correct for you (PST8PDT) despite the language defaulting to fr_CA (French-Canadian). I am hoping to have that
    'fixed' soon ... except where it is valid that is. I am guessing you
    to be en_CA.

    That's right, on this box I use en_CA.UTF-8 on the desktop and en_CA on the terminal.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jun 5 05:33:20 2015
    -={ Thursday, June 04 2015, 22:33:20 -0700 }=-

    Hey Alan!

    Yep, AFIK we should be good in this area.

    Yeppers. Definetly good vibes from the right direction ... despite all the stinkin' Windows software that is. :::sigh::: Kids these days eh?

    That's right, on this box I use en_CA.UTF-8

    Okee dokee I think I have you properly adjusted now. Outputting en_CA.utf8 which is basically ascii as it turns out. I am leaving the default as fr_CA.utf8 though as it will occasionally throw a multibyte character into the extra-special datetime stamp in the message body when appropriate.

    While I have your attention, what do you think about the ftn address splitting routine? I use it for things like;

    bso_ctrl_basename=$(printf "%04x%04x" $destNet $destNode)

    Works like a charm.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Jun 5 07:11:36 2015
    Hello Maurice,

    While I have your attention, what do you think about the ftn address splitting routine? I use it for things like;

    I think it's exactly what I was looking for..

    bso_ctrl_basename=$(printf "%04x%04x" $destNet $destNode)

    Works like a charm.

    It does, I have used it a couple times here already. I need to expand that into
    a bash script (or maybe 3) for the missing send, request and poll from the old husky huskmisc/ directory. Time is way short though, I have family arriving soon (again) but I'm going to get to it and I'll likely need your help.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Jun 5 17:16:44 2015
    Hi,

    On 2015-06-04 22:25:47, Maurice Kinal wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Re: still be bashing":

    -={ vrijdag, juni 05 2015, 00:25:47 +0200 }=-

    We are writing and pronouncing the date with the day number
    first, so that should be: "4 juni 2015"

    I don't believe any locale formats it like the extra-special DateTime
    stamp
    on the first line. Usually - if indeed not always - the day is numeric characters and null padded when single digits (ie 1-9 becomes 01-09). I
    am
    more curious about the spelling and if indeed the alpha day and months are correct as Dutch days and months. The format I chose had nothing to do with locales and more to do with possible translation issues.

    What is the point of translation if you don't do the format right? As it is now
    it's a mixed US / Dutch date, that none of the parties involved will appreciate
    much... ;)

    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jun 5 15:13:44 2015
    -={ Friday, June 05 2015, 08:13:44 -0700 }=-

    Hey Alan!

    I think it's exactly what I was looking for..

    Actually I was playing around and came up with what appears to me to be a 'one size fits all' solution;

    read origZone origNet origNode origPoint <<< \
    $(echo ${origAddr%@*} | tr ':/.' ' ')

    If the address contains a domain, such as @fidonet, then it is stripped out by the 'echo ${origAddr%@*}' part and only echoes what precedes the '@' character,
    1:11/111.0 for example. Also if there is no point (eg 1:11/111) then origPoint
    will not be set in the read and thus could be used in a later conditional statement if and when it matters, such as netmail. The true beauty of the above scheme is that origAddr and destAddr remain in their original form, 3D, 4D or 5D. It simply doesn't matter as long as the ftn addressing format is honoured.

    I need to expand that into a bash script (or maybe 3) for the
    missing send, request and poll from the old husky huskmisc/
    directory.

    Probably a config file(s) that can be sourced as well. Also I have a ftn function file I source as well that I find handy but your mileage may vary.

    I'll likely need your help.

    Take your time. Offhand I am pondering a companion file area where example scripts could be supplied and perhaps freq'ed from if that is a desirable thing. It might be good for testing these kind of ideas? Something to ponder that is for sure.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jun 5 16:01:06 2015
    -={ vrijdag, 05 juni 2015, 18:01:07 +0200 }=-

    Hey Wilfred!

    What is the point of translation if you don't do the format
    right?

    Basically no point whatsoever, but I changed the order to day month year if that suits you better. Personally either way is/was fine with me and am going to leave the full alphabetic day of the week at the beginning. As for useful formatted datetime stamps I find a purely numerical form of 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS(+|-)HHMM' to be the ideal format ala RFC-3339.

    none of the parties involved will appreciate much

    When they start paying the bills around here maybe I'll start appreciating them
    more. ;-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Jun 5 19:22:42 2015
    Hi,

    On 2015-06-05 16:01:07, Maurice Kinal wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
    about: "Re: still be bashing":

    What is the point of translation if you don't do the format
    right?

    Basically no point whatsoever, but I changed the order to day month year
    if
    that suits you better.

    Basically I don't care much. I was just pointing out what the right format would be if you wanted it to be real Dutch. ;)

    Personally either way is/was fine with me and am going to leave the
    full alphabetic day of the week at the beginning. As for useful
    formatted datetime stamps I find a purely numerical form of
    'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS(+|-)HHMM' to be the ideal format ala RFC-3339.

    Me too!


    Bye, Wilfred.


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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jun 5 18:25:48 2015
    -={ vrijdag, 05 juni 2015, 20:25:48 +0200 }=-

    Hey Wilfred!

    I was just pointing out what the right format would be if you
    wanted it to be real Dutch. ;)

    I am not a phoney Dutch nevermind a real one. ;-)

    MK>> 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS(+|-)HHMM' to be the ideal format

    Me too!

    Using coreutils' date command with the --rfc-3339=seconds switch produces;

    2015-06-05 18:25:48+00:00

    I forgot the ':' character in the utc offset between hours and seconds in the MK>> quote above although I believe it isn't required.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Damon A. Getsman@1:340/200 to mark lewis on Sun Jun 14 21:42:42 2015
    Re: still be bashing
    By: mark lewis to Maurice Kinal on Thu Jun 04 2015 16:41:18

    yeah, daemon getsman (sry if i spelled it wrong) was looking for some help with some shell scripting stuff back in january... i pointed him your way but i don't think he made it over to the linux echo...

    No worries. I used to visit somebody in a nursing home that used to be convinced that my name was 'little demon'. ;)
    I thought I had made it to the right echo back then but just never received any responses. I do believe that I had some errors when I was putting the full names of the echoes into my BBS, and that I've got some *LINUX* echo confusion going on right now.
    Best wishes.

    -D
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