• RE: UMM.. PCBOARD NATURAL

    From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to John Kelly on Sun Dec 29 04:31:00 2013


    @MSGID: 2:362/6 00080b7e
    Maybe you could find an OS/2 Warp 4 installation kit = 2 CDs
    somewhere.

    If somebody makes ISO images and posts an Emule link, maybe I can ...


    There are however a couple of fixpaks to be considered but I do
    have them. So far I haven't needed them.

    Those too.


    The only solution would be to run old hardware, CPU <= 350mhz.
    But JK>that's hard to find nowdays, even on Ebay.

    That is a good solution. The OS/2 Warp 5 operating systems
    requires very little processor power and occupies only 120 Mb on
    the HD. That means that you have plenty of space even in a 1 Gb
    partition.

    Not so good really. Motherboards of that vintage are 20 years old
    now. That exceeds the life expectancy of the electrolytic capacitors JK>onboard. They can be replaced at small cost, if you can do the job JK>yourself, but it requires steady hands and good eyesight.

    I solved the problem by running OS/2 WARP as a guest operating system
    under VMware's VM workstation product. I've got OS/2 WARP 3 running
    PCBoard sitting on a Windows 2008 R2 server as a guest VM. I no longer
    have to worry about hardware. I only support telnet access.


    Jeff

    CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999
    Hope and change = $1T deficit and 10%+ unemployment .....

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Jeff Binkley on Mon Jan 6 01:56:00 2014
    I solved the problem by running OS/2 WARP as a guest operating system
    under VMware's VM workstation product. I've got OS/2 WARP 3 running
    PCBoard sitting on a Windows 2008 R2 server as a guest VM. I no
    longer have to worry about hardware. I only support telnet access.

    I'm familiar with all those, but making PCBoard talk telnet is the
    missing link. What do you use for that?

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to John Kelly on Thu Jan 9 22:39:02 2014

    On Mon, 06 Jan 2014, John Kelly wrote to Jeff Binkley:

    I solved the problem by running OS/2 WARP as a guest operating
    system under VMware's VM workstation product. I've got OS/2 WARP 3
    running PCBoard sitting on a Windows 2008 R2 server as a guest VM.
    I no longer have to worry about hardware. I only support telnet
    access.

    I'm familiar with all those, but making PCBoard talk telnet is the missing link. What do you use for that?

    on winwhatever, that would be netserial, i think... whatever product of pcmike's that emulates a modem...

    on OS/2, that would be the vmodem driver with the SIO replacement comms package
    from Ray Gwinn of X00 fame...

    on linux, i understand that there's something built into dosbox or dosemu or such...

    )\/(ark


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  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:116/18 to John Kelly on Fri Jan 10 13:15:02 2014
    I solved the problem by running OS/2 WARP as a guest operating system under VMware's VM workstation product. I've got OS/2 WARP 3 running PCBoard sitting on a Windows 2008 R2 server as a guest VM. I no
    longer have to worry about hardware. I only support telnet access.

    I'm familiar with all those, but making PCBoard talk telnet is the
    missing link. What do you use for that?

    If he is using OS/2, then probably by using SIO and VMODEM.EXE, both
    part of the same package by Ray Gwinn, who, BTW, I see on Facebook from
    time to time.
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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to John Kelly on Sun Jan 12 05:47:00 2014


    @MSGID: 2:362/6 0017cd66
    I solved the problem by running OS/2 WARP as a guest operating
    system under VMware's VM workstation product. I've got OS/2 WARP
    3 running PCBoard sitting on a Windows 2008 R2 server as a guest
    VM. I no longer have to worry about hardware. I only support
    telnet access.

    I'm familiar with all those, but making PCBoard talk telnet is the JK>missing link. What do you use for that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIO_(software)

    SIO/Vmodem. It uses Telnet to create virtual com ports for PCBoard.


    Jeff

    CMPQwk 1.42-21 9999
    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure ...

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to Jeff Binkley on Sun Jan 12 12:28:00 2014
    Jeff

    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure

    I don't like seeing political propaganda in a technical echo, taglines notwithstanding.

    You may as well say democrats are lazy and stupid. Suppose I say
    republicans are greedy and selfish. How does that help anyone?

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  • From MIKE ROBERTS@1:261/1381 to Trifle Menot on Sun Jan 12 22:35:52 2014
    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure

    I don't like seeing political propaganda in a technical echo, taglines notwithstanding.

    You may as well say democrats are lazy and stupid. Suppose I say
    republicans are greedy and selfish. How does that help anyone?

    It probably would have went unnoticed until You posted the above. Thats
    all I'll say. It's funny how things like that work.

    Mike.
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Trifle Menot on Mon Jan 13 10:30:46 2014

    On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Trifle Menot wrote to Jeff Binkley:

    Jeff

    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure

    I don't like seeing political propaganda in a technical echo,
    taglines notwithstanding.

    i don't either but... please see (routed) netmail coming your way...

    )\/(ark
    moderator, PCBOARD

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Trifle Menot on Mon Jan 13 16:06:00 2014




    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure

    I don't like seeing political propaganda in a technical echo,
    taglines notwithstanding.

    I typically only respond in political echoes and didn't turn off
    taglines when I responded here. I'll turn it off in the future. (Look
    no tagline below)


    You may as well say democrats are lazy and stupid.

    I checked and that isn't in my tagline file.


    Suppose I say republicans are greedy and selfish.

    I've heard it many times before.


    How does that help anyone?

    If I were to render my opinion here it might continue this discussion
    much further than the rest of the echo participants would wish to
    endure.



    Jeff

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to Jeff Binkley on Mon Jan 13 22:06:42 2014

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Jeff Binkley wrote to Trifle Menot:

    Democrats -- The party that penalizes success and rewards failure

    I don't like seeing political propaganda in a technical echo,
    taglines notwithstanding.

    I typically only respond in political echoes and didn't turn off
    taglines when I responded here. I'll turn it off in the future.
    (Look no tagline below)

    thank you jeff... please don't post anythin further on this offtopic side topic
    ;)

    )\/(ark

    moderator, PCBOARD

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to Jeff Binkley on Tue Jan 14 15:55:00 2014
    I don't like seeing political propaganda

    I typically only respond in political echoes and didn't turn off taglines when I responded here. I'll turn it off in the future.

    I'm not strictly opposed to things off topic here, it's practically a ghost town. I only know two PCBOARD systems active, worldwide, Mike Luko's and Luis Silva's. There's not much audience to offend; the echo went unmoderated for a long time without trouble.

    I didn't say don't talk politics, I said I don't like propaganda. There's a difference.

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Mark Lewis on Fri Jan 10 23:04:00 2014
    making PCBoard talk telnet is the missing link.

    on OS/2, that would be the vmodem driver with the SIO replacement
    comms package from Ray Gwinn of X00 fame...

    In the sio2k docs, Ray says Warp server ebiz fails when using serial
    ports and IRQ 3. I also read that the server and client code base was
    merged as of fixpak 13.

    So I installed Warp 4, fixpak 9, and sio2k. I use a 2 port serial PCI
    card on IRQ 3. I can start a file transfer but it stalls and dies. So
    much for sio2k.

    Then I read that MCP2 has new serial drivers from IBM that support PCI
    serial cards with IRQ sharing. So I tried MCP 2. Also stalls and dies.
    Must be true about the problem with IRQ 3. And the MCP2 peer networking
    fails when you disconnect a share and try to reconnect it. At least that
    worked right on WARP 4.

    There are some post MCP2 fixpaks, but google turns up no download sites
    for them. Apparently the only way to get them is from the ECS website,
    and for that you must be a paying customer.

    I hadn't looked at OS/2 since the early 1990s, and I was hoping it had
    improved with age. But it's as frustrating now as it was then.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 15 19:51:22 2014

    On Fri, 10 Jan 2014, John Kelly wrote to Mark Lewis:


    making PCBoard talk telnet is the missing link.

    on OS/2, that would be the vmodem driver with the SIO replacement
    comms package from Ray Gwinn of X00 fame...

    In the sio2k docs, Ray says Warp server ebiz fails when using
    serial ports and IRQ 3. I also read that the server and client
    code base was merged as of fixpak 13.

    i don't know... i do not use sio2k... there are known problems with it... the previous version works great, though... i (still) use it on my eCS system which
    is installed clean and then my existing drives moved over with all my existing operations configurations...

    So I installed Warp 4, fixpak 9, and sio2k. I use a 2 port serial
    PCI card on IRQ 3. I can start a file transfer but it stalls and
    dies. So much for sio2k.

    use the previous version instead of sio2k ;)

    [trim]

    I hadn't looked at OS/2 since the early 1990s, and I was hoping it
    had improved with age. But it's as frustrating now as it was then.

    i had to jump from Warp 3 Connect to eCS... i couldn't get Warp 4 of any flavor
    to install and work on my machines... i didn't have time to stay down longer than i was... several days was already too long... so i went with eCS and haven't looked back... all of my operation remaing the same as it was on Warp 3
    Connect ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Trifle Menot on Thu Jan 16 15:30:00 2014


    I don't like seeing political propaganda

    I typically only respond in political echoes and didn't turn off
    taglines when I responded here. I'll turn it off in the future.

    I'm not strictly opposed to things off topic here, it's practically a TM>ghost town. I only know two PCBOARD systems active, worldwide, Mike TM>Luko's and Luis Silva's.

    Well now we can say there are 3 PCBoard systems :)



    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to John Kelly on Thu Jan 16 15:47:00 2014



    making PCBoard talk telnet is the missing link.

    on OS/2, that would be the vmodem driver with the SIO replacement
    comms package from Ray Gwinn of X00 fame...

    In the sio2k docs, Ray says Warp server ebiz fails when using serial JK>ports and IRQ 3. I also read that the server and client code base
    was merged as of fixpak 13.

    So I installed Warp 4, fixpak 9, and sio2k. I use a 2 port serial
    PCI card on IRQ 3. I can start a file transfer but it stalls and
    dies. So much for sio2k.

    Then I read that MCP2 has new serial drivers from IBM that support
    PCI serial cards with IRQ sharing. So I tried MCP 2. Also stalls and JK>dies. Must be true about the problem with IRQ 3. And the MCP2 peer JK>networking fails when you disconnect a share and try to reconnect it.
    At least that worked right on WARP 4.

    There are some post MCP2 fixpaks, but google turns up no download
    sites for them. Apparently the only way to get them is from the ECS JK>website, and for that you must be a paying customer.

    I hadn't looked at OS/2 since the early 1990s, and I was hoping it
    had improved with age. But it's as frustrating now as it was then.

    I am running Warp 3 Connect, under VMworkstation with SIO. It took me
    the better part of 8 hours to get OS/2 to load and run under
    VMworkstation but now it is solid. It means I never have to worry about hardware again.

    Right now I have a Windows 2008R2 server as the host OS running
    instances of OS/2, Windows 2003R2 server, Linux Slackware 14.0, Windows
    7, a Juniper SSL VPN appliance VM and more.


    Jeff

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to Jeff Binkley on Fri Jan 17 14:23:00 2014
    I only know two PCBOARD systems active, worldwide

    Well now we can say there are 3 PCBoard systems :)

    Depends on your definition of "active".

    Has it been in daily operation for a year or more, does it have any non sysop users who actually call, etc.

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Jeff Binkley on Fri Jan 17 19:55:00 2014
    I am running Warp 3 Connect, under VMworkstation with SIO. It took
    me the better part of 8 hours to get OS/2 to load and run under VMworkstation but now it is solid. It means I never have to worry
    about hardware again.

    Right now I have a Windows 2008R2 server as the host OS running
    instances of OS/2, Windows 2003R2 server, Linux Slackware 14.0,
    Windows 7, a Juniper SSL VPN appliance VM and more.

    I've used it for testing too. But for day to day operation, I don't
    like sacrificing the performance of real metal.

    I'll take another look at SIO, pre sio2k.

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Mark Lewis on Fri Jan 17 20:06:00 2014
    i had to jump from Warp 3 Connect to eCS... i couldn't get Warp 4 of
    any flavor to install and work on my machines... i didn't have time
    to stay down longer than i was... several days was already too
    long... so i went with eCS and haven't looked back... all of my
    operation remaing the same as it was on Warp 3 Connect ;)

    I couldn't install Warp 4 on real hardware until I got the idedasd fixes
    for large hard drives. I wonder if that works with Warp 3 too. Is that
    why you had to upgrade from Warp 3?

    I don't think I want to pay for ECS. Seems like their business is on
    life support now, judging by their web site. Development plans extend
    thru 2005 (or so)? That was almost a decade ago.

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Trifle Menot on Wed Jan 15 09:35:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-14-14, Trifle Menot said to Jeff Binkley:

    I'm not strictly opposed to things off topic here, it's practically
    a ghost town. I only know two PCBOARD systems active, worldwide,
    Mike Luko's and Luis Silva's. There's not much audience to offend;
    the echo went unmoderated for a long time without trouble.

    It seems to me that you must have missed other PCBoard BBS's also since
    you have missed my BBS. Please do a full study before you start counting
    next time.

    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to John Kelly on Thu Jan 16 09:10:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-10-14, John Kelly said to Mark Lewis:

    Hi John,

    So I installed Warp 4, fixpak 9, and sio2k. I use a 2 port serial
    PCI card on IRQ 3. I can start a file transfer but it stalls and
    dies. So much for sio2k.

    Did you ever think of disabling the serial port using IRQ 3 in the BIOS
    and let SIO handle the port?

    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to Holger Granholm on Sat Jan 18 15:25:00 2014
    I only know two PCBOARD systems active, worldwide

    It seems to me that you must have missed other PCBoard BBS's also since you have missed my BBS.

    I said "active." How many users call your BBS regularly? (sysop does not count)


    Please do a full study before you start counting next time.

    I said "I only know." That means personal knowledge and experience. I did not say my knowledge is comprehensive, or that I undertook any "study."

    If you want me to conduct a "full study," we can discuss my consulting fees via netmail.

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Holger Granholm on Sun Jan 19 18:10:00 2014
    So much for sio2k.

    Did you ever think of disabling the serial port using IRQ 3 in the
    BIOS and let SIO handle the port?

    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't think
    SIO will do that.

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  • From ROBERT WOLFE@1:116/18 to John Kelly on Mon Jan 20 10:11:04 2014
    Did you ever think of disabling the serial port using IRQ 3 in the
    BIOS and let SIO handle the port?

    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't think
    SIO will do that.

    It will; however, IIRC only if native OS/2 comm apps are using the
    port. Otherwise, you have to assign IRQs for DOS and Win64 comm apps.
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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to John Kelly on Mon Jan 20 09:21:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-19-14, John Kelly said to Holger Granholm:

    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't
    think SIO will do that.

    I strongly recommend reading the manual (documentation).
    I have been using SIO for years and since my "serial" communication goes
    via the the extension slots in the machine the serial ports are disabled
    in the BIOS.

    Regards,

    Holger

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Trifle Menot on Tue Jan 21 05:09:00 2014



    Well now we can say there are 3 PCBoard systems :)

    Depends on your definition of "active".

    Has it been in daily operation for a year or more, does it have any
    non sysop users who actually call, etc.

    My BSS has been around for around 20 years. I have a handful of users
    that remain.


    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Jan 21 05:22:00 2014


    Did you ever think of disabling the serial port using IRQ 3 in
    the BIOS and let SIO handle the port?

    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't
    think SIO will do that.

    It will; however, IIRC only if native OS/2 comm apps are using the
    port. Otherwise, you have to assign IRQs for DOS and Win64 comm
    apps.


    Here's my SIO config for using with PCBoard:

    device=c:\sio\sio.sys [5,INTERNET:1F8,NONE:7] [6,INTERNET:1E8,NONE:7] [7,INTERNET:100,NONE:7] [8,INTERNET:108,NONE:7]

    I don't use the first 4 comm ports and IRQ 7 is shared.


    Jeff

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to Jeff Binkley on Tue Jan 21 13:18:00 2014
    My BSS has been around for around 20 years. I have a handful of users that remain.

    OK. What's the telnet address?

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Jan 21 19:27:00 2014
    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling?

    It will; however, IIRC only if native OS/2 comm apps are using the
    port. Otherwise, you have to assign IRQs for DOS and Win64 comm

    You're thinking of the DOS reflection IRQ provided by the vsio.sys
    virtual device driver. The sio.sys physical device driver requires an
    IRQ (possibly shared) for every port; it will not do polling.

    I think Holger assumed that my IRQ 3 was a motherboard com port that
    could be disabled in the BIOS. That's not so; it's a PCI expansion card
    that PCI assigns to IRQ 3, because there is no COM2 on the motherboard.

    So I'm stuck with IRQ 3, like it or not. But as Mark said, sio2k may be
    the problem. I'll try again with SIO 1.60d.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to John Kelly on Tue Jan 21 20:03:00 2014

    On Fri, 17 Jan 2014, John Kelly wrote to Mark Lewis:

    i had to jump from Warp 3 Connect to eCS... i couldn't get Warp 4 of
    any flavor to install and work on my machines... i didn't have time
    to stay down longer than i was... several days was already too
    long... so i went with eCS and haven't looked back... all of my
    operation remaing the same as it was on Warp 3 Connect ;)

    I couldn't install Warp 4 on real hardware until I got the idedasd
    fixes for large hard drives. I wonder if that works with Warp 3
    too. Is that why you had to upgrade from Warp 3?

    no... i had to upgrade due to a crash (when commercial power returned after the
    UPSes were drained) that corrupted something and would not let Warp 3 Connect boot... i had to mirror the original drives to other drives and then install and copy all my operation's programs and data over to the new installation...

    I don't think I want to pay for ECS. Seems like their business is
    on life support now, judging by their web site. Development plans
    extend thru 2005 (or so)? That was almost a decade ago.

    never judge a book by its cover ;) i don't know what web site you looked at but
    eCS is still being developed and worked on... i still see new driver files being reported for availability and testing when they are released ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Robert Wolfe on Tue Jan 21 21:48:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-20-14, Robert Wolfe said to John Kelly:


    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't think
    SIO will do that.

    It will; however, IIRC only if native OS/2 comm apps are using the
    port. Otherwise, you have to assign IRQs for DOS and Win64 comm
    apps.

    As long as you use the DOS built into OS/2 you don't need to assign an
    IRQ for serial comms.

    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to Trifle Menot on Wed Jan 22 05:00:00 2014

    @MSGID: 1:266/512@fidonet.org e859e5cb
    My BSS has been around for around 20 years. I have a handful of
    users that remain.

    OK. What's the telnet address?

    Telnet to: bbs.thebinks.com


    Jeff

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  • From Trifle Menot@1:266/512 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 22 13:56:00 2014
    I don't think I want to pay for ECS

    The government pays skilled rats to snoop and steal (cyber espionage). They can invade and violate your privacy with impunity. Such acts could put normal citizens in jail. Thus the oxymoron: government morality.

    If thepiratebay.se is immoral then the government must be too.

    BTW, I've heard they have a torrent of ECS 2.0 GA ... but that's just hearsay, not admissible in court.

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 22 09:16:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-21-14, John Kelly said to Robert Wolfe:

    Hello John,

    I think Holger assumed that my IRQ 3 was a motherboard com port that JK>could be disabled in the BIOS. That's not so; it's a PCI expansion
    card that PCI assigns to IRQ 3, because there is no COM2 on the JK>motherboard.

    I still do assume that the BIOS for your MoBo assigns COM ! and COM 2
    as available options. Disable them in the BIOS!

    Have a nice day,

    Holger

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Jeff Binkley on Wed Jan 22 01:41:00 2014
    Here's my SIO config for using with PCBoard:

    Thanks.

    device=c:\sio\sio.sys [5,INTERNET:1F8,NONE:7] [6,INTERNET:1E8,NONE:7] [7,INTERNET:100,NONE:7] [8,INTERNET:108,NONE:7]

    I don't use the first 4 comm ports and IRQ 7 is shared.

    Are your PCBoard ports configured for FOSSIL, or COM port? I could not
    tell from the SIO 1.60d docs if the VX00 FOSSIL works with vmodem, or if
    you have to use COM ports for FOSSIL.

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  • From Jeff Binkley@1:226/600 to John Kelly on Sun Jan 26 07:41:00 2014


    @MSGID: 2:362/6 0017b3a2
    Here's my SIO config for using with PCBoard:

    Thanks.

    device=c:\sio\sio.sys [5,INTERNET:1F8,NONE:7]
    [6,INTERNET:1E8,NONE:7] [7,INTERNET:100,NONE:7]
    [8,INTERNET:108,NONE:7]

    I don't use the first 4 comm ports and IRQ 7 is shared.

    Are your PCBoard ports configured for FOSSIL, or COM port? I could
    not tell from the SIO 1.60d docs if the VX00 FOSSIL works with
    vmodem, or if you have to use COM ports for FOSSIL.

    in PCBsetup the nodes are set to OS/2 com ports (matching the com port
    numbers above 5,6,7,8 etc..) since I am running the OS/2 version of
    PCboard. Other than setting this and locking the com port to 57600
    under PCBsetup, that's about it.


    Jeff

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Holger Granholm on Sun Jan 26 19:26:00 2014
    I still do assume that the BIOS for your MoBo assigns COM ! and COM 2
    as available options. Disable them in the BIOS!

    I don't presume to know the BIOS of your motherboard. Yet you presume to
    know mine, without seeing it.

    But I do know this: not all BIOS have a COM2 enable/disable option when
    the hardware port does not exist on the motherboard.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to John Kelly on Sun Jan 26 20:16:22 2014

    On Wed, 22 Jan 2014, John Kelly wrote to Jeff Binkley:

    Are your PCBoard ports configured for FOSSIL, or COM port? I
    could not tell from the SIO 1.60d docs if the VX00 FOSSIL works
    with vmodem, or if you have to use COM ports for FOSSIL.

    if i am reading your question correctly, yes, it absolutely does... everything i use here that is accessible via telnet has to go thru VX00 and i have several
    external door type programs that do not have fossil capability... AFAIK, everything works but it has been a long time since i was into all the configs...

    )\/(ark

    Not only is the Universe stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think. - Werner Heisenberg

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jan 28 03:23:00 2014
    if the VX00 FOSSIL works with vmodem

    if i am reading your question correctly, yes, it absolutely does... everything i use here that is accessible via telnet has to go thru
    VX00

    I understand telnet would require vmodem. But whether or not VX00 is
    used seems like a different question ...

    and i have several external door type programs that do not have
    fossil capability... AFAIK, everything works

    I don't see how a door without FOSSIL can work thru VX00, which only
    provides FOSSIL support ... I'm not arguing, just trying to understand
    how all the pieces fit, and what the possibilities are.

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  • From John Kelly@2:362/6 to Mark Lewis on Tue Jan 28 04:19:00 2014
    I installed Warp 4, fixpak 9, and sio2k. I use a 2 port serial
    PCI card on IRQ 3. I can start a file transfer but it stalls and
    dies. So much for sio2k.

    use the previous version instead of sio2k

    With 1.60d, I got the same failure. So much for SIO working with my 2
    port PCI card. Or so I thought ...

    Some time later, I tested the onboard COM1 port with PCBoard on DOS.
    Outbound transfers worked, but inbound failed. Puzzled, I looked at the
    BIOS and noticed that power was set on APM. I had it that way for OS/2,
    since Warp 4 does not understand ACPI.

    I set it back to ACPI, and DOS inbound transfers started working fine.
    So the motherboard is buggy when set for APM; the IRQ handling is messed
    up.

    Knowing that, I left it on ACPI and installed WARP 4 again. Now it all
    works. SIO 1.60d and my 2 port serial PCI card on IRQ 3. Amazing what a
    little BIOS setting can do.

    Ray says Warp server ebiz fails when using serial ports and IRQ
    3. I also read that the server and client code base was merged
    as of fixpak 13.

    Right now I'm at fixpak 10. Maybe I will go up to 12 and see if it still
    works there.

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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to John Kelly on Mon Jan 27 09:26:00 2014
    In a message dated 01-26-14, John Kelly said to Holger Granholm:

    But I do know this: not all BIOS have a COM2 enable/disable option
    when the hardware port does not exist on the motherboard.

    Hello John,

    I agree, my ThinkPad T61 has no physical serial port but COM1 is listed
    in the BIOS. The older TP T23 has one physical serial port and both COM1
    and COM2 are listed in the BIOS.

    Needless to state that all my fixed machines do have both ports listed
    in the BIOS as well as physically available but they are disabled in the
    BIOS since they are used from the extension bus:es in the machine's.

    Have a nice day,

    Holger

    ___
    * MR/2 2.30 * What is OS/2 in spanish - dos DOS?


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.71 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 29 12:24:22 2014

    On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, John Kelly wrote to Mark Lewis:

    if the VX00 FOSSIL works with vmodem

    if i am reading your question correctly, yes, it absolutely does... everything i use here that is accessible via telnet has to go thru
    VX00

    I understand telnet would require vmodem. But whether or not VX00
    is used seems like a different question ...

    you are correct... i got confused :/ my system loads VX00 into every task that
    needs it and i forgot that it was separate... for some reason i kept thinking it was part of vmodem... sorry...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 11 20:47:00 2017
    JOHN KELLY wrote to HOLGER GRANHOLM <=-

    Did you ever think of disabling the serial port using IRQ 3 in the
    BIOS and let SIO handle the port?

    How can SIO handle the port without an IRQ? Use polling? I don't think
    SIO will do that.

    That's what SIO was for -- for doing really cool comms related things under OS/2 :)

    ... Two most common elements: Hydrogen and Stupidity.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/17 to John Kelly on Wed Jan 11 20:47:00 2017
    JOHN KELLY wrote to JEFF BINKLEY <

    Are your PCBoard ports configured for FOSSIL, or COM port? I could not tell from the SIO 1.60d docs if the VX00 FOSSIL works with vmodem, or
    if you have to use COM ports for FOSSIL.

    When under OS/2 or eCS I always used the /2 version of PCB so didn't really need to use the VX00.SYS driver, even though it was loaded in ever DOS
    window.

    ... Kill them all! .... Let God sort them out.
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