• MS as vascular disease...

    From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to All on Fri Dec 18 11:36:32 2009
    Hi folks,

    I was just catching up on the news regarding Italian researcher Dr. Paulo Zamboni and MS. He feels it is a vascular disease not an immune disease (his wife was dignosed with MS and so the research...).

    From one article I read this morning:
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    A group of researchers in Italy is proposing a revolutionary new theory about Multiple Sclerosis. They've offered some compelling evidence that MS is primarily a vascular disease, and that the neurologic damage seen in MS patients has its genesis in blood flow problems within the veins of those patients. They're calling this theory Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency, or CCSVI for short.

    The Italian researchers, led by Dr. Paolo Zamboni, imaged the veins leading from the brain and spinal cord of several hundred MS patients, and found that virtually all of them showed evidence of a narrowing or blockage of these vital
    vascular pathways. Specifically, they found blockages or stenosis in the jugular and/or azygos veins of the MS patients they studied, findings not seen in healthy control subjects or in patients with other vascular or neurolgic conditions.

    These researchers theorize that these blockages constrict the flow of blood leaving the central nervous system, causing a reflux of blood back into the brain and/or spine. This reflux leads to edema and inflammation, which in turn leads to an immune response, which then leads to the lesions that are the hallmark of Multiple Sclerosis.

    A group of patients who congregate online at ThisisMS.com have become convinced
    that there is significant merit to this theory. Here is a link to a thread on that site which contains all of the research behind the CCSVI theory, and discussions pertinent to it. One of these patients managed to contact a highly respected vascular doctor at Stanford University, Dr. Michael Dake,. who looked
    over the research materials and agreed that there might indeed be something to this radical approach.

    Dr. Dake and his colleagues have themselves begun imaging the vascular systems of MS patients, and have found results similar to those of the Italian researchers. The Stanford group has gone so far as to start surgically clearing
    the blocked veins of MS patients, by placing stents at the sites of the blockages.

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    Here is a link to a thread on that site which contains all of the research behind the CCSVI theory, and discussions pertinent to it. http://www.thisisms.com/forum-40.html

    My comments... Wouldn't that be a trip if this works out for MS ... a bain for the pharma world as well.. I'm not looking forward to getting a stent in my juglar and other veins <g>.. but I am going to ask my doc to gets some images of my veins... heck I might even quit smoking (argh!!! <g>)

    You can sign a petion here for fasttracking of research and studies in the US: http://www.gopetition.com/online/32858.html

    This is a link to Dr. Zamboni's research paper.

    http://jnnp.bmj.com/content/80/4/392.full?sid=212f095d-cf09-41ab-894d-66424bd84 039

    Oh, btw, you Canadians seem to be lucky in this - from what I understand this new treatment has been reported in Canada and in Europe.. but NOT much in the U.S. (not surprising :( )

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Doug Connor@1:132/500 to Janis Kracht on Fri Dec 18 20:15:38 2009
    Janis Kracht -> All wrote:
    Hi folks,

    I was just catching up on the news regarding Italian researcher Dr.
    Paulo Zamboni and MS. He feels it is a vascular disease not an immune disease (his wife was dignosed with MS and so the research...).
    Hm maybe an aspirin a day might help.



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    Oh, btw, you Canadians seem to be lucky in this - from what I understand this new treatment has been reported in Canada and in Europe.. but NOT much in the U.S. (not surprising :( )
    yea that figures.



    Take care,
    Janis

    Hello Janis

    So how is the Ubuntu treating you?

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Doug Connor on Fri Dec 18 21:25:34 2009
    Hi Doug,

    I was just catching up on the news regarding Italian researcher Dr.
    Paulo Zamboni and MS. He feels it is a vascular disease not an immune
    disease (his wife was dignosed with MS and so the research...).
    Hm maybe an aspirin a day might help.

    Who knows... I always take a couple as soon as I get up ... ;)


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    Oh, btw, you Canadians seem to be lucky in this - from what I understand
    this new treatment has been reported in Canada and in Europe.. but NOT
    much in the U.S. (not surprising :( )
    yea that figures.

    Yep.. sure does.

    So how is the Ubuntu treating you?

    So far so good :)

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Janis Kracht on Wed Jan 6 22:56:46 2010
    Hi, Janis! Recently you wrote in a message to All:

    A group of researchers in Italy is proposing a
    revolutionary new theory about Multiple Sclerosis.
    They've offered some compelling evidence that MS
    is primarily a vascular disease, and that the
    neurologic damage seen in MS patients has its
    genesis in blood flow problems within the veins
    of those patients. They're calling this theory
    Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency, or
    CCSVI for short.


    Very interesting. Thankyou.... :-)



    Oh, btw, you Canadians seem to be lucky in this -
    from what I understand this new treatment has been
    reported in Canada and in Europe..


    Apparently it has, but this was the first I'd heard of it.




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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Ardith Hinton on Thu Jan 7 09:25:42 2010
    Hi Ardith, I hope you and your family had a great Christmas and New Year!

    A group of researchers in Italy is proposing a
    revolutionary new theory about Multiple Sclerosis.
    They've offered some compelling evidence that MS
    is primarily a vascular disease, and that the
    neurologic damage seen in MS patients has its
    genesis in blood flow problems within the veins
    of those patients. They're calling this theory
    Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency, or
    CCSVI for short.


    Very interesting. Thankyou.... :-)

    I thought so.. kind of knocks out all the immunological theories so it will need extensive testing though..

    Oh, btw, you Canadians seem to be lucky in this -
    from what I understand this new treatment has been
    reported in Canada and in Europe..

    Apparently it has, but this was the first I'd heard of it.

    Interesting :) I think the story got one small note in one of the network news
    stations here in the USA (NBC, I think) and that's it.

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Janis Kracht on Wed Jan 13 18:17:40 2010
    Hi Janis,

    Thursday January 07 2010 09:25, Janis Kracht wrote to Ardith Hinton:

    Interesting :) I think the story got one small note in one
    of the network news stations here in the USA (NBC, I think)
    and that's it.

    Up here in Calgary CDN it was in /all/ the local news and local papers.

    Kevin

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Kevin Klement on Wed Jan 13 23:40:56 2010
    Hi Kevin!

    Thursday January 07 2010 09:25, Janis Kracht wrote to Ardith Hinton:

    Interesting :) I think the story got one small note in one
    of the network news stations here in the USA (NBC, I think)
    and that's it.

    Up here in Calgary CDN it was in /all/ the local news and local papers.

    That's good to hear.. I can't believe it hasn't had more attention here :(

    Take care,
    Janis

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