Hi ya'll... been a while, no?

Has anyone questioned the lack of coverage and activity concerning the many states' reaffirmations of the 9th and 10th amendments?

Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

Bob

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Hi ya'll... been a while, no?

Has anyone questioned the lack of coverage and activity concerning the many states' reaffirmations of the 9th and 10th amendments?

Not here. This echo has been dead for months if not years. Insofar as your question is concerned, many people have done so - but congresscrooks still continue to ignore them.

The gun grabbing left got a shock, though, when the Supremes ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an *individual* right rather than a collective right limited to organized state militias.

Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country. Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American people?

Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

I do. But they're not going to do me any good. I'll be dead inside of 20 years,
hopefully of old age = and I'm lucky enough not to have had any offspring.

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Hi Bob,

On Tue 2038-Dec-07 17:14, Bob Ackley (1:300/3) wrote to Bob Short:

Not here. This echo has been dead for months if not years. Insofar
as your question is concerned, many people have done so - but congresscrooks still continue to ignore them.

OF course they do, and they've convinced most folks that
it's futile anyway. PEople forget waht the 9th and 10th are all about, i.e. the 9th, rights not enumerated as belonging
to the people shall not limit those to the only rights, and
10 of course, rights not granted the people or the federal
government are states' rights. States give up those rights, often for money. Look at how they did seatbelt laws, the 55 mph speed limit, etc. Want them highway funds?

The gun grabbing left got a shock, though, when the Supremes ruled
that the right to keep and bear arms is an *individual* right rather
than a collective right limited to organized state militias.

YEah, I liked that too. I like gun control, I like hitting
one's target.

Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
people?

YEs I am very aware of that, makes me a bit jittery
sometimes. But, often they don't have to go that far,
there's this money thing.

Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

I do. But they're not going to do me any good. I'll be dead inside
of 20 years,
hopefully of old age = and I'm lucky enough not to have had any
offspring.

I'm with you on the 20 years part, but I was stupid enough
as a young man to leave offspring behind. Scary world my
grandson gets to inherit.

Regards,
Richard
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Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
people?

""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your weapon
on the one giving the order.""

the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot of smart
advice for today's world even though it is a work of fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time, there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

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Replying to a message of mark lewis to Bob Ackley:

Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their
right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
people?

""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your weapon on the one giving the order.""

the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot
of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority of those
on active service in the military do not. Some years back a survey was done (IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do so?" Most replied 'yes.'

When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly received a
lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

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""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your
weapon on the one giving the order.""

the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot
of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority
of those on active service in the military do not. Some years back
a survey was done

how many years back? mid 2000's??

(IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot
Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do
so?" Most replied 'yes.'

:? :(

When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly
received a lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as
an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

i'm suspecting that it might have been in reference to the above book(s) i mention... IIRC, they were Orson Scott Card's "EMPIRE" (2006) and "HIDDEN EMPIRE" (2009)... both are a good read and worth the time ;)

one might also be interested in OSC's "Ender Saga" which are "ENDER'S GAME", "SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD", "XENOCIDE", CHILDREN OF THE MIND", "A WAR OF GIFTS", and "ENDER IN EXILE"...

see www.hatrack.com for OSC's official site and the list of books that he has written... i've read almost all of them via our local library ;)

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Replying to a message of mark lewis to Bob Ackley:

""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your
weapon on the one giving the order.""

the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a
lot of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority of
those on active service in the military do not. Some years back a
survey was done

how many years back? mid 2000's??

About ten years. Very early 2000s or maybe late 1990s.

(IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot
Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do
so?" Most replied 'yes.'

:? :(

Really, they said yes.

When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly
received a lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as
an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

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# States give up those rights, often for money.
##[RW=>BA]

For example, Kentucky is Washington's concubine.

Mike

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# States give up those rights, often for money.
##[RW=>BA]

For example, Kentucky is Washington's concubine.

Mike,

I know I'm a bit out of time for this one as I'm just getting back
online... with the way Kentucky is now I'm not sure if KY is
a concubine anymore... I would say we are probably like that crazy ex girlfriend after the last election.

Allen
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On 05/09/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

a concubine anymore... I would say we are probably like that crazy ex girlfriend after the last election.

LOL!

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