• Dead-end resolutions?

    From Bob Short@1:261/38 to All on Tue Dec 7 08:40:46 2010
    Hi ya'll... been a while, no?

    Has anyone questioned the lack of coverage and activity concerning the many states' reaffirmations of the 9th and 10th amendments?

    Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

    Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

    Bob

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to Bob Short on Tue Dec 7 17:14:52 2010
    Replying to a message of Bob Short to All:

    Hi ya'll... been a while, no?

    Has anyone questioned the lack of coverage and activity concerning the many states' reaffirmations of the 9th and 10th amendments?

    Not here. This echo has been dead for months if not years. Insofar as your question is concerned, many people have done so - but congresscrooks still continue to ignore them.

    The gun grabbing left got a shock, though, when the Supremes ruled that the right to keep and bear arms is an *individual* right rather than a collective right limited to organized state militias.

    Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

    Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country. Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American people?

    Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

    I do. But they're not going to do me any good. I'll be dead inside of 20 years,
    hopefully of old age = and I'm lucky enough not to have had any offspring.

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Bob Ackley on Wed Dec 8 01:13:40 2010
    Hi Bob,

    On Tue 2038-Dec-07 17:14, Bob Ackley (1:300/3) wrote to Bob Short:

    Not here. This echo has been dead for months if not years. Insofar
    as your question is concerned, many people have done so - but congresscrooks still continue to ignore them.

    OF course they do, and they've convinced most folks that
    it's futile anyway. PEople forget waht the 9th and 10th are all about, i.e. the 9th, rights not enumerated as belonging
    to the people shall not limit those to the only rights, and
    10 of course, rights not granted the people or the federal
    government are states' rights. States give up those rights, often for money. Look at how they did seatbelt laws, the 55 mph speed limit, etc. Want them highway funds?

    The gun grabbing left got a shock, though, when the Supremes ruled
    that the right to keep and bear arms is an *individual* right rather
    than a collective right limited to organized state militias.

    YEah, I liked that too. I like gun control, I like hitting
    one's target.

    Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
    activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
    no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
    Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
    whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
    people?

    YEs I am very aware of that, makes me a bit jittery
    sometimes. But, often they don't have to go that far,
    there's this money thing.

    Who has thoughts on this, 'cause eXPiring want to know. :)

    I do. But they're not going to do me any good. I'll be dead inside
    of 20 years,
    hopefully of old age = and I'm lucky enough not to have had any
    offspring.

    I'm with you on the 20 years part, but I was stupid enough
    as a young man to leave offspring behind. Scary world my
    grandson gets to inherit.

    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Bob Ackley on Wed Dec 8 20:11:28 2010
    Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

    Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
    activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
    no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
    Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
    whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
    people?

    ""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your weapon
    on the one giving the order.""

    the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot of smart
    advice for today's world even though it is a work of fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time, there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to mark lewis on Thu Dec 9 06:33:06 2010
    Replying to a message of mark lewis to Bob Ackley:

    Not too long ago, there was a rash of states taking a stand for their
    right to sovereignty that seems to have taken back seat to <what?>.

    Won't do any good. The federal courts will nullify any such
    activity - backed up by legions of armed federal employees who have
    no problem at all in shooting down the citizens of this country.
    Were you aware that there are about 120 different federal agencies
    whose employees are empowered to carry arms against the American
    people?

    ""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your weapon on the one giving the order.""

    the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot
    of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
    fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
    there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
    names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
    with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

    While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority of those
    on active service in the military do not. Some years back a survey was done (IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do so?" Most replied 'yes.'

    When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly received a
    lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Bob Ackley on Sun Dec 12 12:15:04 2010
    ""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your
    weapon on the one giving the order.""

    the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a lot
    of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
    fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
    there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
    names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
    with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

    While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority
    of those on active service in the military do not. Some years back
    a survey was done

    how many years back? mid 2000's??

    (IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot
    Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do
    so?" Most replied 'yes.'

    :? :(

    When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly
    received a lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as
    an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

    i'm suspecting that it might have been in reference to the above book(s) i mention... IIRC, they were Orson Scott Card's "EMPIRE" (2006) and "HIDDEN EMPIRE" (2009)... both are a good read and worth the time ;)

    one might also be interested in OSC's "Ender Saga" which are "ENDER'S GAME", "SPEAKER FOR THE DEAD", "XENOCIDE", CHILDREN OF THE MIND", "A WAR OF GIFTS", and "ENDER IN EXILE"...

    see www.hatrack.com for OSC's official site and the list of books that he has written... i've read almost all of them via our local library ;)

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  • From Bob Ackley@1:300/3 to mark lewis on Sun Dec 12 17:27:24 2010
    Replying to a message of mark lewis to Bob Ackley:

    ""if anyone orders you to shoot an American Citizen, turn your
    weapon on the one giving the order.""

    the above is a quote from a book, a real good book, that carries a
    lot of smart advice for today's world even though it is a work of
    fiction... IIRC, it is a book by Orsen Scott Card... at this time,
    there are two in the series but i do not recall either of their
    names... damned good book and very enlightening if one reads them
    with an eye on what is going on in today's world...

    While I agree with the sentiment expressed, a significant majority of
    those on active service in the military do not. Some years back a
    survey was done

    how many years back? mid 2000's??

    About ten years. Very early 2000s or maybe late 1990s.

    (IIRC of Navy SEALS) that asked basically "Would you shoot
    Americans who refused to give up their firearms when ordered to do
    so?" Most replied 'yes.'

    :? :(

    Really, they said yes.

    When somebody leaked the survey to the media - and it deservedly
    received a lot of negative comment - the Pentagon brushed it off as
    an individual officer doing research for an advanced degree.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Richard Webb on Sun Jul 3 08:42:00 2011
    # States give up those rights, often for money.
    ##[RW=>BA]

    For example, Kentucky is Washington's concubine.

    Mike

    ##MMR 2.61#. !link RW 12-08-10 01:13


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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Mike Powell on Mon May 9 01:03:06 2016
    # States give up those rights, often for money.
    ##[RW=>BA]

    For example, Kentucky is Washington's concubine.

    Mike,

    I know I'm a bit out of time for this one as I'm just getting back
    online... with the way Kentucky is now I'm not sure if KY is
    a concubine anymore... I would say we are probably like that crazy ex girlfriend after the last election.

    Allen
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  • From robert wolfe@1:116/18.662 to Allen Prunty on Sun Apr 16 21:18:14 2017
    On 05/09/16, Allen Prunty said the following...

    a concubine anymore... I would say we are probably like that crazy ex girlfriend after the last election.

    LOL!

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