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    From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to All on Tue Oct 1 20:50:44 2024
    Hi, All

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    Bye

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  • From Alexey Khromov@2:5030/723 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Tue Oct 1 22:00:00 2024
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    01 ��� 24 20:50, Yuri Kosivtsov -> All:

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    Alexey Khromov
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
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  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29.1 to Alexey Khromov on Wed Oct 2 20:57:39 2024
    Hi, Alexey Khromov

    01 Oct 24, Alexey Khromov wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

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    � ���� ࠧ���� ��᪠ ��⥬� �����.


    Bye

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  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Sun Oct 6 10:23:41 2024
    02 ���. 2024, �।�, � 20:57 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

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    ����-�뫠 FreeBSD 4.11, ���⠢������ 19 ��� �����. �� ࠡ�⠫�
    ���� �⫨筮 � �த������ ࠡ���� �����.
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    � ���� ࠧ���� ��᪠ ��⥬� �����.

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    � �� �뤠��.

    Eugene
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to Eugene Grosbein on Mon Oct 7 21:15:51 2024
    Hi, Eugene Grosbein

    06 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    ��� ������ ����஢�����, �᫨ �ࠢ��쭮 㪠�뢠��� ��㬥���.
    ������ �� ����� ��⥬� gpart show � file -s /dev/... ��� 䠩����� ��⥬�, ������ ��⠥���� ᬮ��஢���. � ��������� ������ ������� ����஢���� � �� �뤠��.

    ���������, ����� �㪢 �㤥�

    �� freebsd 4.11 fstab
    ==
    # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
    /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1
    /dev/ad0s1h /home ufs rw 2 2
    /dev/ad0s1g /usr ufs rw 2 2
    /dev/ad0s1f /tmp ufs rw 2 2
    /dev/ad0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
    /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0
    proc /proc procfs rw 0 0
    ==

    files -s /dev/ad*
    ==
    /dev/ad0: x86 boot sector
    /dev/ad0a: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x1f), BSD disklabel
    /dev/ad0b: data
    /dev/ad0c: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x1f), BSD disklabel
    /dev/ad0d: empty
    /dev/ad0e: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /var, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:27 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0f: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /tmp, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:19 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0g: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /usr, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:08 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 20480000, number of data blocks 20161390, number of cylinder groups 225, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0h: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /home, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:13:15 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 55888544, number of data blocks 55019107, number of cylinder groups 614, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0s1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x1f), BSD disklabel
    /dev/ad0s1a: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x1f), BSD disklabel
    /dev/ad0s1b: data
    /dev/ad0s1c: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x3c, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0x0, reserved 0x16, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x1f), BSD disklabel
    /dev/ad0s1d: empty
    /dev/ad0s1e: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /var, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:27 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0s1f: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /tmp, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:19 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0s1g: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /usr, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:17:08 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 20480000, number of data blocks 20161390, number of cylinder groups 225, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0s1h: Unix Fast File system (little-endian), last mounted on /home, last written at Mon Oct 7 14:13:15 2024, clean flag 0, number of blocks 55888544, number of data blocks 55019107, number of cylinder groups 614, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ad0s2: empty
    /dev/ad0s3: empty
    /dev/ad0s4: empty
    ==

    ���⢥��⢥��� �� ��ଠ�쭮 ���������. � �⮣� ��᪠ ����㦠���� �
    ࠡ�⠥�. ����� ����� ᬮ��஢��� �� ����㧪� live-��⥬ � ᨤ
    (frenzy � �.�.)


    ����� ����㧨� FreeBSD 14.1 i386 c cd. ��襫 � Live System.

    gpart show
    ==
    63 312579632 ada0 MBR (149G)
    63 312576642 1 freebsd [active] (149G)
    312576705 2990 - free - (1.5M)

    0 312576642 ada0s1 BSD (149G)
    0 843776 1 freebsd-ufs (412M)
    843776 4161536 2 freebsd-swap (2.0G)
    5005312 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M)
    6053888 1048576 6 freebsd-ufs (512M)
    7102464 81920000 7 freebsd-ufs (39G)
    89022464 223554178 8 freebsd-ufs (107G)

    63 312579632 diskid/DISK-9RAB2C30 MBR (149G)
    63 312576642 1 freebsd [active] (149G)
    312576705 2990 - free - (1.5M)

    0 312576642 diskid/DISK-9RAB2C30s1 BSD (149G)
    0 843776 1 freebsd-ufs (412M)
    843776 4161536 2 freebsd-swap (2.0G)
    5005312 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M)
    6053888 1048576 6 freebsd-ufs (512M)
    7102464 81920000 7 freebsd-ufs (39G)
    89022464 223554178 8 freebsd-ufs (107G)

    63 15722433 da0 MBR (7.5G)
    63 193 - free - (97K)
    256 15722240 4 fat32lba [active] (7.5G)
    ==

    files -s /dev/ad*
    ==
    /dev/ada0: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 1 : ID=0xa5, active, start-CHS (0x0,1,1), end-CHS (0x3ff,254,63), startsector 63, 312576642 sectors
    /dev/ada0s1: DOS/MBR boot sector, BSD disklabel
    /dev/ada0s1a: DOS/MBR boot sector, BSD disklabel
    /dev/ada0s1b: data
    /dev/ada0s1e: Unix Fast File system [v1] (little-endian), last mounted on /var, last written at *Invalid datetime*, clean flag 1, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ada0s1f: Unix Fast File system [v1] (little-endian), last mounted on /tmp, last written at *Invalid datetime*, clean flag 1, number of blocks 262144, number of data blocks 258031, number of cylinder groups 3, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ada0s1g: Unix Fast File system [v1] (little-endian), last mounted on /usr, last written at *Invalid datetime*, clean flag 1, number of blocks 20480000, number of data blocks 20161390, number of cylinder groups 225, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    /dev/ada0s1h: Unix Fast File system [v1] (little-endian), last mounted on /home, last written at *Invalid datetime*, clean flag 1, number of blocks 55888544, number of data blocks 55019107, number of cylinder groups 614, block size 16384, fragment size 2048, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 60rps, TIME optimization
    ==

    �� �������. ������ ᫮���, ����� �⢥� ���� �� ����

    mount /dev/ada0s1a /mnt
    ==
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1g (190464) UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs-> > fs->fs_size(0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs,fs-(1112)
    mount: /dev/ada0s1a: No such file or directory
    ==

    �᫨ ������� ����஢��� ��㣨� ࠧ���� (/dev/ada0s1g � ��.) १���� �� ��.
    === Cut ===


    Bye

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  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Thu Oct 10 10:48:13 2024
    07 ���. 2024, �������쭨�, � 21:15 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    �� �������. ������ ᫮���, ����� �⢥� ���� �� ����
    mount /dev/ada0s1a /mnt
    ==
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1g (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs-> > fs->fs_size(0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs,fs-(1112) mount: /dev/ada0s1a: No such file or directory
    ==
    �᫨ ������� ����஢��� ��㣨� ࠧ���� (/dev/ada0s1g � ��.) १���� ��
    ��.

    ���� � �㣫� �� ������ UFS1 superblock failed: "fs->fs_size"
    ���� �����⢥���� ��뫪�, ��� �� �ࠢ���� �⢥�: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all/2022-November/019207.html

    �� ����, ��稭�� � ��⪨ 13.x, �஢�ઠ �㯥࡫��� �� ����஢����
    �⠫� ����� ��ண�� � ����� �� �������� ����ࠧ���� � ��.

    �� ����ࠧ���� ������ ��ࠢ���� fsck_ffs, ⠪ �� ⥡� �㦭�
    ᤥ���� fsck_ffs -y /dev/ada0s1a �� ᢥ��� ���ᨨ, �� � ��� ��⠫��� fs ⮦�.

    Eugene
    --
    �⮡� ��� ��� � ���, �� �⮡ �� �⮬ - �� ⠪, ��� ���.
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
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  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to eugen@grosbein.net on Thu Oct 10 21:27:29 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    10 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    ���� � �㣫� �� ������ UFS1 superblock failed: "fs->fs_size"
    ���� �����⢥���� ��뫪�, ��� �� �ࠢ���� �⢥�: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all/2022-November/0 19207.html
    �� ����, ��稭�� � ��⪨ 13.x, �஢�ઠ �㯥࡫��� �� ����஢����
    �⠫� ����� ��ண�� � ����� �� �������� ����ࠧ���� � ��.
    �� ����ࠧ���� ������ ��ࠢ���� fsck_ffs, ⠪ �� ⥡� �㦭�
    ᤥ���� fsck_ffs -y /dev/ada0s1a �� ᢥ��� ���ᨨ, �� � ��� ��⠫���
    fs ⮦�.

    ��ࠢ��� ������, �� �� ��ࠢ��. �����⨫ fsck_ffs, ����稫:
    === Cut ===
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1) * fs->fs_fpg (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs->fs_fsize) (1) > fs->fs_size (0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs, fs->fs_csaddr)) (1112)
    Attempted recovery for standard superblock: failed
    Attempt extraction of recovery data from standard superblock.
    Try cg 0 at sblock loc 32
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1) * fs->fs_fpg (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs->fs_fsize) (1) > fs->fs_size (0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs, fs->fs_csaddr)) (1112)
    Try cg 1 at sblock loc 380960
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1) * fs->fs_fpg (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs->fs_fsize) (1) > fs->fs_size (0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs, fs->fs_csaddr)) (1112)
    Try cg 2 at sblock loc 761888
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1) * fs->fs_fpg (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs->fs_fsize) (1) > fs->fs_size (0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs, fs->fs_csaddr)) (1112)
    Finding an alternate superblock failed.
    Check for only non-critical errors in standard superblock
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) <= ((int64_t)fs->fs_ncg - 1) * fs->fs_fpg (190464)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr + howmany(fs->fs_cssize, fs->fs_fsize) (1) > fs->fs_size (0)
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_csaddr (0) < cgdmin(fs, dtog(fs, fs->fs_csaddr)) (1112)
    Failed, superblock has critical errors
    SEARCH FOR ALTERNATE SUPER-BLOCK FAILED. YOU MUST USE THE
    -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE
    SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck_ffs(8).
    === Cut ===

    �� ��㣨� ࠧ����� �������筮, ⮫쪮 �㪢 �������, ����� �뢮�, �� ����ࠢ���. � �� �������.

    �஡���� �訫 ᫥���騬 ��ࠧ��. ���騫 ��� ������� � � 4.11 � � 14.1
    � ��⠢�� � ���� ����, �� ���஬ ���� ᨤ�. ����㧨��� � ᨤ
    Frenzy 1.4 (live cd �� �᭮�� FreeBSD 8.3). � ���쬥ઠ 㢨���� � ���� ᬮ��஢��� ��, � ��� �� 14 (geom) � �� 4 (mbr). ����� �஬ ��७��
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    �� ᠬ�� ᮢ६����� ������ � � ��������� ����� ��� � FAT 12
    �� MSDOS 2.0. � ��� ��᮫�⭮ �ਢ���쭠� ����� ��७�� ���ଠ樨 ���ॡ����� ������ �� �襭��.

    Bye

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  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Fri Oct 11 05:15:37 2024
    10 ���. 2024, �⢥�, � 21:27 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    ��� ⥯��� �㬠�, � �㦭� �� ��� ����� ���, �᫨ �� ⠪ ������? ���
    �� ᠬ�� ᮢ६����� ������ � � ��������� ����� ��� � FAT 12
    �� MSDOS 2.0.

    ��⮬� �� FAT12 �㯠� ��� �஡��.

    Eugene
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29.1 to eugen@grosbein.net on Fri Oct 11 19:23:38 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    11 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    ��⮬� �� FAT12 �㯠� ��� �஡��.
    ������� �뫥��� �� ���� �஡����. ��� � ��ᠫ, � ᪮��஢��
    ���ଠ�� �� ���⪨� ��� � ��⠭�������� 14.1. �����, ��⠢��
    ���⪨� ��� �� ���� � ����㧨��� � ����. ��諮�� ����, ��᫥
    ����஢���� � ���쬮� freebsd ����᪠�� fsck_ffs

    ��⥫ ��७��� ᪮��஢����� � ��㣮� ��⠫��. �⠭���⭮, �१
    tar -cf ....| tar xpf
    ����稫 ᫥������ ���� �訡�� ���������:
    './DOCUMENT/Oleg////PDF/b9912.pdf' to UTF-8: Can't translate pathname

    � �������, �� ��� ��� ᫨誮� ������, ��� �஡���� � ���᪨��
    ������� 䠩���, ����� � ᮢ��襭�� ࠧ��� ����஢��� �뫨 (�����
    �ᥣ� � win1251 �� ᠬ��) � ����୮� ����� /// ������ ���. � ������
    � ��? ����� ����� ��⥬� ���-� ������ ���᪨� ������ 䠩���?
    � ��ன �� ࠡ�⠫�, � ���짮��⥫�� ᥩ�� � ������
    � �⨫� 8.3 msdos 㦥 �� ������.

    Bye

    ---
    * Origin:  YY (2:5021/29.1)
  • From Valentin Nechayev@2:463/68.300 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Fri Oct 11 22:14:54 2024

    Hi,

    Yuri Kosivtsov wrote:

    ��⥫ ��७��� ᪮��஢����� � ��㣮� ��⠫��. �⠭���⭮, �१
    tar -cf ....| tar xpf
    ����稫 ᫥������ ���� �訡�� ���������: './DOCUMENT/Oleg////PDF/b9912.pdf' to UTF-8: Can't translate pathname

    � �������, �� ��� ��� ᫨誮� ������, ��� �஡���� � ���᪨��
    ������� 䠩���, ����� � ᮢ��襭�� ࠧ��� ����஢��� �뫨 (�����
    �ᥣ� � win1251 �� ᠬ��) � ����୮� ����� /// ������ ���. H� ������
    � ��? ����� ����� ��⥬� ���-� ������ ���᪨� ������ 䠩���?
    � ��ன �� ࠡ�⠫�, � ���짮��⥫�� ᥩ�� � ������
    � �⨫� 8.3 msdos 㦥 �� ������.

    � � ���� �� tar �� ���� ��祣� �� ����஢��, �� �᫨ �� 㬭�砥� ᮣ��᭮ ⥪�饩 ������, � ����� ���஡����� �१ `export LC_ALL=C` �⪫���� ��� ��...


    -netch-

    ... "��� �� ��⥫!" - ���㬠� ���.

    ---
    * Origin: Dark side of coredump (2:463/68.300)
  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Tue Oct 15 21:38:28 2024
    11 ���. 2024, ��⭨�, � 19:23 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    ������� �뫥��� �� ���� �஡����. ��� � ��ᠫ, � ᪮��஢��
    ���ଠ�� �� ���⪨� ��� � ��⠭�������� 14.1. �����, ��⠢��
    ���⪨� ��� �� ���� � ����㧨��� � ����. ��諮�� ����, ��᫥ ����஢���� � ���쬮� freebsd ����᪠�� fsck_ffs
    ��⥫ ��७��� ᪮��஢����� � ��㣮� ��⠫��. �⠭���⭮, �१
    tar -cf ....| tar xpf
    ����稫 ᫥������ ���� �訡�� ���������: './DOCUMENT/Oleg////PDF/b9912.pdf' to UTF-8: Can't translate pathname
    � �������, �� ��� ��� ᫨誮� ������,

    H��.

    ��� �஡���� � ���᪨��
    ������� 䠩���, ����� � ᮢ��襭�� ࠧ��� ����஢��� �뫨 (�����
    �ᥣ� � win1251 �� ᠬ��)

    ��.

    � ����୮� ����� /// ������ ���. H� ������
    � ��? ����� ����� ��⥬� ���-� ������ ���᪨� ������ 䠩���?

    �ࠢ���� ��७�� ������ � UFS �� dump | restore

    Eugene
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29.1 to eugen@grosbein.net on Wed Oct 16 10:48:09 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    15 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    �ࠢ���� ��७�� ������ � UFS �� dump | restore
    ��� ���� ��⠫����?

    Bye

    ---
    * Origin:  YY (2:5021/29.1)
  • From Alexey Khromov@2:5030/723 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Wed Oct 16 11:43:55 2024
    �������, Yuri!

    16 ��� 24 10:48, Yuri Kosivtsov -> eugen@grosbein.net:

    �ࠢ���� ��७�� ������ � UFS �� dump | restore
    ��� ���� ��⠫����?

    ��� ���� ��⠫����, ���४⭮ ᬮ��஢����� (� �㦭� codepage), ���� �ᯮ�짮���� tar -zcp<����� �� �����).
    � � 楫���� 䠩���� ��⥬� ��� (cat /dev/FS | gzip -c - | tar | split). � �� �� ���� ᭠���� � ���, ����, � �⮬ ����� 㤮����. ��� �� ����, �த�, �१ ᭠��� � ࠡ�⠥�.


    Alexey Khromov
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
    * Origin: - �� � ���᭮��! �� ���㦥�� ஡�⠬�! - (2:5030/723)
  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Wed Oct 23 23:51:19 2024
    16 ���. 2024, �।�, � 10:48 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    �ࠢ���� ��७�� ������ � UFS �� dump | restore
    ��� ���� ��⠫����?

    �� ������� ����� � ��� ���� ��⠫����:

    cd destination
    dump -f- ... | restore -if -
    add dir1
    add dir2
    extract

    Eugene
    --
    ����� - ����� �. � ��� �� ��⮥.
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to eugen@grosbein.net on Wed Oct 23 22:06:18 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    23 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    �� ������� ����� � ��� ���� ��⠫����:
    cd destination
    dump -f- ... | restore -if -
    add dir1
    add dir2
    extract

    ����� �� �����. ��� � �������, �� �⢥થ ����� 䠩��� �� � ����,
    ���᮫� �뫠 cons25r, � ���� koi-8. � 14.1 ���.
    ����� �� �ਬ���஢��� ��� ��᪠ �㤠-����� (���ਬ�� � 8 ��� 9 �����), �⮡� �� ����஢����/��७�� �ࠢ��쭮 ����஢����� ����� 䠩���?
    �� ����஢���� fat ��� ᨤ�஬� ����� � 㪠���� ⠡����, �����
    �� �� ᤥ���� ��� ufs1 � ufs2 ? ��� �� ����஢���� �� �� ��祣�
    �� ��᪠�뢠��.
    � �������, �� �孨�᪨ ����� ᪮��஢��� 䠩�� �� ��, ���ਬ��
    �㯮 �� ftp, ����� ࠧ �롨�� ����஢��. H� �� ����� � ��� �
    ���ࠢ��쭮. ����� �� ����஢��� "� �।���� ������ �����"?

    Bye

    ---
    * Origin:  YY (2:5021/29)
  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Thu Oct 24 12:26:50 2024
    23 ���. 2024, �।�, � 22:06 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    ����� �� �����. ��� � �������, �� �⢥થ ����� 䠩��� �� � ����, ���᮫� �뫠 cons25r, � ���� koi-8. � 14.1 ���.

    H������, ����� ���᮫�. H� ��⥬� ����� 室��� �� ��, ����� ��� ���᮫�. H���୮, �� "� 14.1 ���": 䠩����� ��⥬� UFS, � �⫨稥 �� �������� ��㣨�, �� ����� ������ "����஢��" ��� 䠩���. H� UFS ���� ����
    ��� �������⨬�� ���� � ������ 䠩���: ������� ��� ASII 47,
    ⠪ ��� �� ᨬ��� '/' - ࠧ����⥫� ��⠫����, � �㫥��� ���� ���
    �ନ���� ���� � ��⥩ � UFS. ��� ��㣨� ����� � ������ 䠩���
    � ��⠫���� �����⨬� � ����� �� ������������ 䠩����� ��⥬��
    UFS, � ����஢�� ��� 䠩��� �� ����⨥ �� �஢�� 䠩����� ��⥬�,
    � �஢�� �ਫ������, ࠡ����� � 䠩����. ������ ����� ࠡ����
    � ����� 䠩��� � ����� ����஢�� � � ����� � ��㣮�.

    ����� �� ⠪�� �ਫ������ ���� ������� tar, ����� ����
    �몮�� ����ன�� �� ��६����� ���㦥��� LANG �/��� LC_ALL � �.�.

    ����� �� �ਬ���஢��� ��� ��᪠ �㤠-����� (���ਬ�� � 8 ��� 9 �����), �⮡� �� ����஢����/��७�� �ࠢ��쭮 ����஢����� ����� 䠩���?
    �� ����஢���� fat ��� ᨤ�஬� ����� � 㪠���� ⠡����, �����
    �� �� ᤥ���� ��� ufs1 � ufs2 ? ��� �� ����஢���� �� �� ��祣�
    �� ��᪠�뢠��.

    ��� ᪠���� ���, �� �� ����⨥ �஢�� ����஢���� � ����� �� ����⨥
    �஢�� 䠩����� ��⥬�. ���� ������� env, ����� �������� ������ ⠪:

    env LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R tar ...

    �� ����, tar ��������� � ������� KOI8-R.

    Eugene
    --
    H����� �� ��������� �����⠬, � ��᫥������ �� � �ࠢ������ �� ���祭��
    � ������. H����� ����஦���� �⭮����� � ����� �뢠��� ��, ��⮬� �� ����� ������� �����砩�� �����.
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to eugen@grosbein.net on Thu Oct 24 21:43:42 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    24 Oct 24, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    env LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R tar ...
    �� ����, tar ��������� � ������� KOI8-R.
    ���ᨡ�. �����-����� ����⭮.

    �� ���� �᫨ � �� ��設� � ������� KOI8-R ᤥ��� 䠩�, ���ਬ��
    tar -cfvz docs.tgz document
    � ��⮬ ��� �ᯠ��� �� ��設� � ��㣮� �������
    tar xfz docs.tgz
    � ���� 蠭�, �� ���᪨� ����� 䠩��� � ����祭��� ��⠫��� document
    ���� ���४�묨?


    Bye

    ---
    * Origin:  YY (2:5021/29)
  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Sat Oct 26 09:38:46 2024
    24 ���. 2024, �⢥�, � 21:43 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    env LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R tar ...
    �� ����, tar ��������� � ������� KOI8-R.
    ���ᨡ�. �����-����� ����⭮.
    �� ���� �᫨ � �� ��設� � ������� KOI8-R ᤥ��� 䠩�, ���ਬ��
    tar -cfvz docs.tgz document
    � ��⮬ ��� �ᯠ��� �� ��設� � ��㣮� �������
    tar xfz docs.tgz
    � ���� 蠭�, �� ���᪨� ����� 䠩��� � ����祭��� ��⠫��� document ���� ���४�묨?

    �� ������, � ��⭮��, �� �ଠ� ᮧ������� tar-䠩��,
    ��� �� ������⢮ �� ������ ᮢ���⨬��. � man libarchive-formats
    �� �����ন������ ������ ��� ᯨ᮪ � �ᮡ������.

    pax �ᯮ���� UTF-8 ��� ����஢���� ��� 䠩��� � ��娢�,
    ���⮬� �祭� �����, �⮡� �� ᮧ����� ��娢� � �ଠ� pax
    ������� tar ����᪠���� � ⮩ �� �������, � ���ன ��࠭塞�
    䠩��, ⠪ �� ��� ᬮ��� ��� �᪠����� ��४���஢��� �����
    �� ��室��� ����஢�� � UTF-8.

    ��㣨� �ଠ�� ����� ��࠭��� ����� "��� ����" ��� �८�ࠧ������
    ����஢�� � ��� 㪠����� ����஢��, ⠪ �� ��� ���४⭮��
    �����祭�� ���� 㡥������, �� �� �ᯠ����� �� �ந�室�� ����⪨ ��४���஢��.

    ���� ᪠����, �� ᮢ६����� ������ FreeBSD � ����⢥ tar
    � �⫨稥 �� ����� ���ᨩ, ��� �� �� GNU tar, ��� �ᯮ������
    bsdtar, ����� ���� ����⪮� ��� libarchive � ���⮬� 㬥��
    ᮧ������ � �ᯠ���뢠�� �� ⮫쪮 tar-䠩��, �� � ��娢�
    ��㣨� �ଠ⮢. H��ਬ��, �� ����� ᮧ������ ��७�ᨬ� ZIP:

    # tar --format zip --one-file-system \
    --options compression-level=0,encryption,hdrcharset=UTF-8 \
    -C / -cvf /var/tmp/archive.zip /

    ����� ������� ᮧ���� ZIP-��娢 ��� ᦠ��, �� � �⠭����� ZIP-��஢����� (��஫� ���� ���ࠪ⨢��), � 㪠������ ����஢��� ��� 䠩���
    � ����頥� � ���� ᮤ�ন��� ��୥��� 䠩����� ��⥬�,
    �� ��� �ਬ���஢����� ��㣨� 䠩����� ��⥬ (�窨 ����஢���� ��࠭��).

    (� InfoZIP, � �ਬ���, ��� ������� ��樨 --one-file-system)

    Eugene
    --
    � ���ᨨ ����� ��⨩ ������ ������. ��� ��窨 ���७�, ���� ����,
    � ��� �ᥣ�� ��稭��� ������.
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to eugen@grosbein.net on Tue Oct 29 21:47:13 2024
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    �����-�� � �� �����.
    �모�㫨 ���� �ࢥ� DELL, ��� Intel Xeon E5, 128 ����⨢��

    � ��� ���⮢ ���⠢�� �� ���� FreeBSD 14.1 amd64. �� ��⠫�, ��
    �� ����㧪� ����:

    === Cut ===
    real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB)
    avail memory = 133729558528 (127534 MB)
    Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
    ACPI APIC Table: <DELL PE_SC3 >
    FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 48 CPUs
    FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 12 core(s) x 2 hardware threads

    est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00
    device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00
    device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00

    ... � �� ����� ⮣� �� ᠬ���
    === Cut ===

    � �ࠢ��쭮 �������, �� � GENERIC �� �� 墠⠥� �����-�
    �����প� �����஢? H��� ᬮ���� � ��஭� ���ᡮન
    ��, ��� ���� ����� ������ � FreeBSD � ⠪�� �������
    � �⠢��� �����-����� �����?


    Bye

    ---
    * Origin:  YY (2:5021/29)
  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Thu Oct 31 01:27:05 2024
    29 ���. 2024, ��୨�, � 21:47 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    �����-�� � �� �����.
    �모�㫨 ���� �ࢥ� DELL, ��� Intel Xeon E5, 128 ����⨢��
    � ��� ���⮢ ���⠢�� �� ���� FreeBSD 14.1 amd64. �� ��⠫�, ��
    �� ����㧪� ����:
    === Cut ===
    real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB)
    avail memory = 133729558528 (127534 MB)
    Event timer "LAPIC" quality 600
    ACPI APIC Table: <DELL PE_SC3 >
    FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 48 CPUs
    FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 12 core(s) x 2 hardware threads
    est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00
    device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00
    device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 20d300001e00

    � �ࠢ��쭮 �������, �� � GENERIC �� �� 墠⠥� �����-�
    �����প� �����஢? H��� ᬮ���� � ��஭� ���ᡮન
    ��, ��� ���� ����� ������ � FreeBSD � ⠪�� �������
    � �⠢��� �����-����� �����?

    H��, FreeBSD �㤥� ��ଠ�쭮 ࠡ����. H� � ⠪�� ���������
    �� �㤥� ࠡ���� ��������� ����� CPU, �� �㭪��
    ������ �� ⮫쪮 �� CPU, �� � �� ACPI-⠡��� BIOS.

    H� ����蠥� �������� BIOS �� ��᫥���� ����㯭�� ���ᨨ
    � ����拉��, �� �㤥�. H� �� ����易⥫쭮, �᫨ ���������
    ⠪⮢�� ����� �� �㦭�.

    Eugene
    --
    ���⮣����� ��᫮� ᢮� �஦���� �ਭ﫨 �� ����, �ᯠ�뢠��� �ॢ
    ᢮�� - �� �����, �।�⢠, ������騥 ࠧ������� - �� 樢�������...
    --- slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD)
    * Origin: RDTC JSC (2:5006/1@fidonet)
  • From Alex Korchmar@2:5020/400 to Eugene Grosbein on Fri Nov 1 20:14:26 2024
    From: Alex Korchmar <noreply@linux.e-moe.ru>

    Eugene Grosbein <Eugene.Grosbein@f1.n5006.z2.fidonet.org> wrote:

    H� ����蠥� �������� BIOS �� ��᫥���� ����㯭�� ���ᨨ
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    Alex

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  • From Alexey Khromov@2:5030/723 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Mon Dec 16 21:44:08 2024
    �������, Yuri!

    est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
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    ���ᡮઠ ��.
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    https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?est

    ���� � � ���஡���� �१ loader.conf ����� �����㧨�� - ����� � ���ᮡ���� ��祣� �� ����.


    Alexey Khromov
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  • From Alexey Khromov@2:5030/723 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Mon Dec 16 21:46:34 2024
    �������, Yuri!

    est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0

    ���� ������-� ������. ����� ���� ᬮ���� � ����� ��஭�...

    DIAGNOSTICS
    est%d: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu%d

    Indicates normal startup of this interface.

    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471c471c0600471c
    device_attach: est%d attach returned 6

    Indicates all attempts to attach to this interface have failed. This
    usually indicates an improper BIOS setting restricting O/S control of
    the CPU speeds. Consult your BIOS documentation for more details.

    ����ﭨ � ����. � ��� ��� ⠬ � ������ �� ���� ���뢠����.

    Alexey Khromov
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  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to Alexey Khromov on Mon Dec 16 22:33:14 2024
    Hi, Alexey Khromov

    16 Dec 24, Alexey Khromov wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    ���ᡮઠ ��.
    ���室��� ������� est:
    https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?est
    ���ᨡ� ��ᬮ�५, ���� � �� ⠪�� ����. � �⮬ ���� �����,
    �� �᫨ �� ������, � � ���㬥���� �� ���� ᬮ����.

    Bye

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  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to Alexey Khromov on Thu Dec 19 23:00:29 2024
    Hi, Alexey Khromov

    16 Dec 24, Alexey Khromov wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    ����ﭨ � ����. � ��� ��� ⠬ � ������ �� ���� ���뢠����.
    ������. �� ᫮���.
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    � �� �ࠫ device cpufreq � ���ᮡࠫ ��. ����� �� �㣠����.

    Bye

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  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Sun Jan 26 12:13:53 2025
    07 ���. 2024, �������쭨�, � 21:15 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    mount /dev/ada0s1a /mnt
    ==
    UFS1 superblock failed: fs->fs_size (0) < 8 * fs->fs_frag (64)

    Poul-Henning Kamp ��९��⨫ ��� �஡���� � Kirk McKusick ��ࠢ�� ��, ����⠭���� ᮢ���⨬����:

    https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=6a356edd4fc3c8d7959fcc6a2447c7193d830392
    https://reviews.freebsd.org/D48472

    The code to handle old filesystems still exists and does
    the right things. The problem is that it was being run
    after the new integrity checks rather than before them.
    This bugs was introduced 2.5 years ago when I added
    the integrity checks.

    The reason that it has taken so long to show up is because
    it only affected filesystems created before UFS2 got added
    in June 2002 and that had never been mounted read-write
    (as their superblocks would be updated by the compatibility code
    if they could be written). Hence you had to come along
    with a pre-2002 virgin UFS1 filesystem image. It was actually good
    that the integrity checks were there as it otherwise
    would have silently failed to work.

    Eugene
    --
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  • From Yuri Kosivtsov@2:5021/29 to eugen@grosbein.net on Tue Jan 28 00:22:40 2025
    Hi, eugen@grosbein.net

    26 Jan 25, Eugene Grosbein wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    Poul-Henning Kamp ��९��⨫ ��� �஡���� � Kirk McKusick ��ࠢ�� ��, ����⠭���� ᮢ���⨬����:
    �� ����, �᫨ �, ���ਬ�� �����, ᪠�� ��᫥���� ५�� � ������ ���
    ��� live CD, � �� 㢨��� � ���⠥� ࠧ����, ᮧ����� � �⢥�⮩ ���ᨨ?

    Bye

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  • From Eugene Grosbein@2:5006/1 to Yuri Kosivtsov on Wed Jan 29 23:19:47 2025
    28 ﭢ. 2025, ��୨�, � 00:22 NOVT, Yuri Kosivtsov ����ᠫ(�):

    Poul-Henning Kamp ��९��⨫ ��� �஡���� � Kirk McKusick ��ࠢ�� ��,
    ����⠭���� ᮢ���⨬����:
    �� ����, �᫨ �, ���ਬ�� �����, ᪠�� ��᫥���� ५�� � ������ ���
    ��� live CD, � �� 㢨��� � ���⠥� ࠧ����, ᮧ����� � �⢥�⮩ ���ᨨ?

    �� �㤥� ��୮ ���� ��� ५���, ���饭���� � ���饬.

    Eugene
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  • From Andrey Ostanovsky@2:5030/1957 to Eugene Grosbein on Mon Feb 3 13:23:08 2025
    Hello Eugene!

    29 Jan 25 23:19, you wrote to Yuri Kosivtsov:

    Poul-Henning Kamp ��९��⨫ ��� �஡���� � Kirk McKusick
    ��ࠢ�� ��, ����⠭���� ᮢ���⨬����:
    �� ����, �᫨ �, ���ਬ�� �����, ᪠�� ��᫥���� ५�� �
    ������ ��� ��� live CD, � �� 㢨��� � ���⠥� ࠧ����,
    ᮧ����� � �⢥�⮩ ���ᨨ?

    �� �㤥� ��୮ ���� ��� ५���, ���饭���� � ���饬.

    �, ��� �� ��᫠�� ������� - 㦥 ���.

    ���-� ����� ᪠����, �� "�� �� ���������� ���६� - �� ᠬ ᥡ� �����".

    Andrey

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