• SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1

    From Jerry Woody@1:3634/60 to all on Thu Jun 19 06:41:33 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1044

    PART 1

    The is only one of many files which I intend to upload that
    substantiate the information contained in my MAJIC.TXT.
    Bill Cooper

    A series of PROJECT GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK reports have been
    released over the years in connection with the USAF's
    investigation into UFO's which was supposedly terminated with
    the release of the Condon report in the late 1960's. Reports
    1 through twelve of GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK were generally innocuous
    and contained no classified or truly sensitive material.
    There was a final report, #14 which was widely circulated and
    about which an entire book was written: FLYING SAUCERS: AN
    ANALYSIS OF THE AIR FORCE PROJECT BLUE BOOK SPECIAL REPORT
    NO. 14 by Leon Davidson: the fifth edition was published in
    1976 by Blue-Book Publishers; 64 Prospect St., White Plains,
    New York 10606. Missing from public view, however, was
    report #13.

    Several years ago, Bill English, son of an Arizona state
    legislator and former captain in the Green Berets had been
    asigned to an RAF 'listening post' north of London as an
    information analyst. English was, in the course of his
    duties, asked to prepare an analysis of the elusive GRUDGE 13
    report. On his discharge from his work at the 'listening
    post' he returned to the United States and began to do a
    little UFO research on his own. English had been no stranger
    to the UFO phenominon. In Viet Nam he was a member of a
    Special Forces investigative team that went in to retrieve a
    B-52 that was forced down by a UFO and all the occupants
    killed. Communications had been received from the B-52
    before it went down to the effect that it was "...under
    attack by a UFO..", A "...large light...". The plane was
    found intact, sitting in the jungle. There was no swath
    indicative of a crash landing. Only the bottom of the
    fuselage showed any damage, there was no damage to the
    underside of the engine pods. Although the plane was
    completely intact the entire crew had been mutilated.

    English, through contacts he still maintains has determined
    that the US Government 'most definately' supports a 'project
    dealing specifically with UFO's and captured aliens'.
    According to what he has learned, the US government captured
    a trio of aliens, and that as of mid 1981, one of the beings
    was still alive in captivity. English also claims that "at
    one point in the early 1950's until the mid 1960's the Air
    Force maintained relocation and debriefing colonies for
    people who had experienced close encounters of the 3rd and
    4th kind. They were isolated for all intents and purposes
    for the rest of their lives. He doubts that these colonies
    are still in existence.

    English dictated 2 audio casettes outlining what he
    remembered from the Grudge 13 report. These audio casettes
    were transcribed into hand written notes by another person.
    The information contained therein indicated what had been
    suspected all along: that the US government was involved in
    the greatest deception in the history of mankind and that not
    only did flying saucers exist but that the government had
    several in secret storage and had captured at least 3 live
    aliens.

    The following is a summary of what Bill English remembers
    from what he read during that day in June, 1977 of PROJECT
    GRUDGE/BLUE BOOK REPORT NO 13.

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    In Box, diplomatic pouch under lock and key system. Lock had
    been opened, pouch was easily accessed. Standard diplomatic
    couriers pouch marked American Embassy Couriers, contained
    pouch serial number JL327Delta (JL327D?). Inside a
    publication with red tape which indicated code red security
    precautions and an Air Force disposition form. Disposition
    form was standard white page copy, title was 'Analysis
    Report'. Further down was "Analyse enclosed report under
    code red measures. give abstract breakdown and report on
    validity. Observe all code red measures. Analysis required
    immediately'. Underneath were a series of dashes then the
    letters NDF then another series of dashes. Below that, lower
    left hand corner were the initials WGB.

    Publication was withdrawn from pouch. It measured
    approximately 8" by 11" with gray cover. Heavily bound,
    paper back style similar to technical manuals. Across the
    center front it read, "Grudge/Blue Book Report No. 13". It
    was dated 1953-(1963). In the lower right hand corner was
    AFSN 2246-3. In upper left hand corner was the word
    'annotated'. Across the front upper right hand corner to
    lower left hand corner was red tape indicating code red
    security measures. Across the front was stamped in red ink
    'Top Secret Need To Know Only Crypto Clearance 14 Required'
    Inside front cover upper left hand corner were hand written
    notations in ink which were blacked out by black felt pen.

    Inside cover sheet was basically the same information as the
    cover. Second page was title page. Next page after that was
    an appendix with numerous notations made in it. Notations
    dealt with inserts of what appeared to be photos and
    additional notes. At bottom of third page it read G/BV Page
    1 of 624 pages. Title page was subject letter. Complete
    list of appendix not remembered. Title. Some notes on the
    practical applications of the Worst Nemo equations.

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  • From Meghan Fitzgerald@1:3634/60 to All on Fri Jun 20 06:16:21 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1045

    PART 2

    Table of Contents, Part 1. "On the design of generators to
    accomplish strain free molecular translation". Part 2, "The
    generation of space time discontinuums, closed, open and
    folded". Part 3, "On the generation of temporary psuedo
    acceleration locas". Part 1, Chapter 1, "design criteria for
    a simple generator and control system referring to equation
    17 appendix A". Part 2 Chapter 1, "Continuation of Einsteins
    Theory of Relativity to final conclusion". Part 3, Chapter
    1, "Possible applications of Einsteinian theory of relativity
    at conclusion".

    Part 1, chapter 2, reports of UFO encounters, classification
    "Close Encounters of the 1st kind", subtitle sightings and
    witnesses. Part 2, Chapter 2, "Close Encounters of the 2nd
    kind", subtitle UFO sightings witnessed within close
    proximity. Part 3, Chapter 2 "Close Encounters of the 3rd
    kind", subtitle UFO encounters and extraterrestrial life
    forms witnessed and personal encounters. Subtitle, "Colonies
    relocation thereof". Case histories. Chapter 3 Part 1,
    titled "Military kEncounters with UFO's". Part 2 Chapter 3,
    "Military Reports Concerning sightings on Radar and
    Electronic Surveillance of UFO's". Subsection 2, Analysis
    Report, J. Allen Hynek, LtCol. Friend. Appendix continued on
    for about 5 pages. Opening subject page consisted of a
    report of the findings as written by LtCol. Friend and his
    analysis.

    Must stress at this point that the version seen was
    annotated. There were inserts that were added to this copy
    after it had been initially printed. Sections remembered
    very vividly are the photographs and the reports concerning
    captive sights of various UFO's to include Mexico, Sweden,
    United States and Canada. There were also what was then
    classified Close Encounters of the 3rd kind. It was made
    very clear that these people whom it was determined had
    genuine CE 3's were move in the middle of the night by Air
    Force personnel and relocated to various sites in the midwest
    and northwest parts of the United States. In many cases
    these people experienced physical ailments from exposure to
    various types of radiation.

    One case especially noted and remembered very vividly was
    entitled 'Darlington Farm Case' out of Ohio. Case apparently
    took place in October 1953. Man, wife and 13 year old son
    were sitting down at dinner table. As they sat there the
    lights in the farm house began to dim. Dogs and animals
    raised rucus on outside. 13 year old boy got up from dinner
    table to see what was going on. Called his mother and father
    to come look at the funny lights in the sky. Father and
    mother got up and as they got up the son went outside into
    the yard. Father and mother went out onto the porch. When
    they got out on the porch one of the dogs broke loose from
    leash beside house and came running around front. Boy began
    chasing it out into the open field. As mother and father
    watched the light came down from the sky. They described it
    as a round ball of fire and it began to hover over field
    where boy and dog had run to. As they stood and watched, the
    mother and father heard the boy start screaming for help
    whereupon the father grabbed his shotgun which was right next
    to the door and began to run out into the field with the
    mother following. When the father got to the field he saw
    his son being carried away by what looked like little men,
    into this huge fiery looking object. As it took off the
    father fired several rounds at the object, to no avail. They
    found dog, its head was crushed but no sign of boy or any
    other footprints of the little men who apparently carried him
    off. Father immediately called Darlington police and they
    immediately came out to envestigate. The official report
    read that the boy had run off and was lost in the forest
    which bordered the farm. Within 48 hours the Air Force made
    the determination that the family was to be relocated and the
    mother and father were picked up by Air Force Intelligence
    and all personal belongings and possessions were loaded into
    U.S. Air Force trucks and moved to a notrhwestern relocation
    site.

    The mother was in shock and had to go through a great deal of
    psychotherapy and deprogramming as did father. One
    interesting aspect about this case was classification under
    the Air Force report which read it was a genuine CE 3 and
    that for the good of the national security the mother and
    father had been relocated to relocation zone Z21-14. Not
    sure whether this indicated map grid coordinates or latitude
    longitude. According to the report there were at least 4
    relocation sites across the United States. Depending upon
    which type of encounter these people had, the report
    indicated that there were extensive medical facilities
    available at these relocation sites to deal with all medical
    emergencies up to and including radiation poisoning. The
    report mentioned a site located in the Utah-Nevada area, but
    no indication of its purpose or what it was for.

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  • From Larry Sneeringer@1:3634/60 to All on Sat Jun 21 06:51:44 2025

    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1046

    PART 3

    Report gave a clear indication of reports of human
    mutilations, most notably was a case witnessed by Air Force
    personnel in wich an Air Force Sgt. E-6 by the name of
    Jonathon P. Lovette was observed being taken captive aboard
    what appeared to be a UFO at the White Sands Missle Test
    Range in New Mexico. This abduction took place in March of
    1956 at about 0300 local and was witnessed by Major William
    Cunningham of the United States Air Force Missile Test
    Command near Holloman Air Force Base.

    Major Cunningham and Sgt. Lovette were out in a field
    downrange from the launch sites looking for debris from a
    missile test when Sgt. Lovette went over the ridge of a small
    sand dune and was out of sight for a time. Major Cunningham
    heard Sgt. Lovette scream in what was described as terror or
    agony. The Major, thinking the Sgt. had been bitten by a
    snake or something ran over the crest of the dune and saw
    Sgt. Lovette being dragged into what appeared to him and was
    described as being a silvery disk like object which hovered
    in the air approximately 15 to 20 feet. Major Cunningham
    described what appeared to be a long snake-like object which
    was wrapped around the sargeants legs and was dragging him to
    the craft. Major Cunningham admittedly froze as the sargeant
    was dragged inside the disc and observed the disc going up
    into the sky very quickly. Major Cunningham got on the jeep
    radio and reported the incident to Missile Control whereupon
    Missile Control confirmed a radar sighting. Search parties
    went out into the field looking for Sgt. Lovette. Major
    Cunninghams report was taken and he was admitted to the White
    Sands Base Dispensary for observation.

    The search for Sgt. Lovette was continued for 3 days at the
    end of which his nude body was found approximately 10 miles
    downrange. The body had been mutilated; the tongue had been
    removed from lower portion of the jaw. An incision had been
    made just under the tip of the chin and extended all the way
    back to the esophagus and larynx. He had been emasculated
    and his eyes had been removed. Also, his anus had been
    removed and there were comments in the report on the apparent
    surgical skill of the removal of these items including the
    genitalia. The report commented that the anus and genitalia
    had been removed 'as though a plug' which in the case of the
    anus extended all the way up to the colon. There was no sign
    of blood within the system. The initial autopsy report
    confirmed that the system had been completly drained of blood
    and that there was no vascular collapse due to death by
    bleeding. Subcomment was added that this was unusual because
    anybody who dies or has complete loss of blood there is
    vascular collapse. Also noted was that when the body was
    found there were a number of dead predatory type birds within
    the area who apparently had died after trying to partake of
    the sargeants body. There were a number of extremely grisly
    black and white photos. From all indications the body had
    been exposed to the elements for at least a day or two. The
    New Mexico sun in the desert is extremely hot and
    dibilitating under normal circumstances.

    In this section of the report it also indicated that there
    were numerous occasions in which a UFO tracked alongside of a
    fired missile and on one occasion said missile was observed
    being taken aboard a UFO while in flight. The speeds
    indicated were absolutely phenomenal. (English's father had
    told him privately that on more than one occasion he had
    personally tracked what they termed as 'foo fighters'.
    English's father was an electronic engineer by profession and
    was fairly well versed on electronics engineering and design
    and on more than one occasion he was involved in telemetry
    programming of missiles. English's father is currently a
    state legislator in Arizona.)

    The report also indicated that there were a number of
    recovery teams that were activated specifically for the
    purpose of recovering any and all evidence of UFO's and UFO
    sightings. Most notably recorded in publication was what
    they called Recovery Team Alpha. It was reported that Alpha
    had been extremely active in a number of areas and on certain
    occasions had travelled outside of the continental United
    States. Alpha was based out of Wright Patterson Air Force
    Base and was on the move constantly.

    Further information in the report consisted of such things as
    reported sightings and where air force planes had been
    destroyed or had combat encounters or had been attacked by
    UFO's. Also there were autopsy reports of various human
    mutilations.

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  • From Carolyn Hoffman@1:3634/60 to All on Mon Jun 23 06:33:17 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1048

    PART 5

    As I walked in the small airport lobby after a 3 hour drive
    from Richmond I immediately noticed 2 gentlemen who seemed
    'out of place' for this locale. Both were wearing pin
    striped 3 piece suits, both had on dark glasses. One was a
    black gentleman. One was stationed inside the lobby door
    looking out at the parking lot, one was leaning up against an
    airline counter. I sat down and after a few minutes was
    approached by a tall, bearded man in jeans and a heavy
    jacket. He asked if I wanted to have a drink. We walked
    outside and he introduced himself as Bill English. We drove
    in Bills car into town to a local bar. About 5 minutes after
    we ordered and had started to talk, the men I had seen at the
    airport came into the bar and sat down. We left for Bill's
    house and never saw the men again for the next 2 days.

    During the next 2 days I stayed with Bill and his wife and 2
    children in a small trailer in the middle of a field at his
    farm. I asked him endless questions concerning the Grudge 13
    document, how he happened to see it, what happened to him
    after he saw it and literally thousands of questions about
    the content of the document. My impression of Bill English
    was that he was totally honest, that he stood behind his
    statements and recollection of the Grudge 13 papers, that he
    was a devoted husband and father to his wifes 2 children.
    That Bill English was ready to come forward and enter into
    any debate regarding the legitimacy of the document and his
    recollections thereof. Of Bills compassion for his father
    and his fathers feelings concerning Bill and the reasons for
    their occasional disagreements. I have tremendous respect
    for Bill and what he has tried to do in getting this
    information out to the public. It has been at tremendous
    personal risk not to mention the ridicule by sponsered agents
    such as Bill Moore who has stated that the Grudge 13 papers
    are a fraud. (How would Bill Moore know?)

    What follows is additional information about the Grudge 13
    papers that I obtained from Bill during my visit. In
    addition to the following Bill painstakingly drew many
    sketches of the photos of different types of flying saucers,
    the equipment obtained from them including a sketch of the
    football sized nuclear generator and sketches of the autopsy
    photos.

    From my notes taken during our 2 day meeting: Bill described
    a photo taken of 3 live aliens. Very clear photo, aliens
    standing against white tile wall, looking confused as if they
    had been shoved, were looking in different directions.
    Report said that aliens had contacted a U.S. Intelligence
    Agency for initial 2 meetings, one at Holloman one at
    Homestead.

    U.S. Air Force relocation personnel (for persons involved in
    close encounters) were referred to in report as 'men in
    black'.

    Major Cunningham was initially accused of murdering Sgt.
    Jonathon P. Lovette. Charges were later dropped.

    Bill English's place of employment in England was RAF
    Security Services Command, RAF Chicksands.

    Entire Grudge 13 report was written as if report was geared
    toward preparation of defenses.

    Report told of ultrasonic weapons found in Germany at the end
    of WW II that could shatter 4" thick armour.

    Report told of sensitive military and industrial areas at
    which personnel experienced missing time.

    Report told about missing time experienced with personnel
    associated with North American x-15 rocket plane project.

    Report stated that there were 17 different extraterrestrial
    species accounted for up to the time of the report.

    Extraterrestrials were referred to as A.L.F.'s, Alien Life
    Forms in the report.

    Report referred to one UFO that was recovered and test flown.
    The UFO blew up as the 2 Air Force pilots aboard attempted to
    leave the atmosphere. English recalls the date as the mid
    50's.

    Report refers to flying saucer program as Project 'Red Light'
    and that a secret installation had been constructed in the
    middle of the Atomic Energy Commission testing ground in
    Nevada.

    At the time of the report 11 alien cadavers were being kept
    at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.

    That additional alien cadavers were being stored at 4 to 5
    other medical institutions.

    That 2 flying saucers of extraterrestrial origin had been
    tested in the wind tunnel at Langley, Va.

    That at the time of the report, 1 damaged disc was at Elgin
    Air Force Base in Florida.

    That at the time of the report there had been 2 UFO incidents
    at Ft. Riley, Kansas.

    That at the time of the report a detachment of the Alpha
    recovery team was based at Randolph Air force Base.

    The report discussed civilian and military personnel who had
    been terminated 'to eliminate potentially dangerous elements
    to the national security'.

    That General James Doolittle had been mentioned several times
    in the report with the notation that "His (Doolittle's)
    predictions might be correct". There was no indication of
    what those predictions might have been.

    A short segment containing the quotation, "By presidential
    order, certain aspects of research had been undertaken."

    This report about Bill English and the Grudge 13 papers was
    prepared by John Lear, 1414 Hollywood Blvd., Las Vegas,
    Nevada 89110, telephone number (702) 438-8181, on October 7,
    1988.

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  • From Andrew Squires@1:3634/60 to All on Tue Jun 24 06:26:44 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1049

    PART 6

    This report was typed onto disc verbatim from the original
    document which was sent by John Lear via Federal Express and
    arrived on October 8, 1988 by Bill Cooper. I Bill Cooper do
    swear that no changes were made and do swear that this is an
    exact verbatim copy of the original.

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    STATEMENT




    I, William S. English, do hereby state and affirm that I
    have met with Mr. John Olson Lear, on September 16-17, of
    1988, and that we discussed my original report on my viewing
    of the Grudge/Bluebook Report 13, in June of 1977.

    I Further state that whatever opinions Mr. Lear form or
    express on this matter are entirely his own, and that I stood
    behind my statements made originally when I came forward with
    this matter, and that I continue to stand behind my
    statements to this date.

    I further state that anyone saying that they have an
    admission from me personally that this was a hoax is a liar
    and that if I was in fact perpetrating a hoax I could have
    found a better way of doing it. Instead I have chosen to
    allow time to either prove or disprove my claims on the
    information on this matter. Time it seems has proven the
    validity of my statements.
    I welcome the chance to defend my position in either public
    or private debate and will continue to stand behind by
    original report.




    Signed:

    William S. English (signature)

    William S. English
    September 17, 1988
    Gladys, Virginia



    I Bill Cooper do swear that I typed this verbatim on to disc
    on October 8, 1988 and do swear that no changes have been
    made and do swear that this is a verbatim copy of the
    original.

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  • From Jerry Woody@1:3634/60 to All on Thu Jun 26 06:08:13 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1051


    PART 8
    ROBERT'S STORY



    Robert _____ ______, a young man in his early 20's came to
    work at my shop as a temporary help during the 2nd week of
    October 1986. The first day at work, he approached me asking
    about my interest in the UFO phenomenon. Then he smiled,
    paused, and waited for my reaction. I told him that I was
    interested, particularly in the crash/recovery of saucers and
    bodies of occupants. That I was secondly interested in the
    rumors pertaining to an "alien" and intelligence group
    alliance set up years ago.

    He then told me he would reveal something to me pertaining to
    my second interest as mentioned above. He told me the
    following (condensed by me):

    1. He was in the military headquartered with the 4th
    Engineering Group at Fort Carson, Colorado. Just got out 2
    months prior to the date of telling me this.

    2. He showed me a military I.D. card from Fort Carson and
    another with a strange checker board design on it.

    3. He said he had a Super Top Secret clearance and worked
    as a laboratory assistant in southwestern Colorado associated
    with the Delta Group out of Fort Carson.

    4. He witnessed cryogenic experimentation going on with
    human beings. This experimentation was conducted by both
    "aliens" and some Super Secret intelligence group.

    5. "Some high ranking military and scientific personnel were
    taken down to cryogenic temperatures through a process of
    draining their blood and pumping a chemical mixture into the
    circulatory system to prevent cell destruction during the
    freezing and thawing periods." "The "aliens" were the only
    ones who knew the mixture formula and the gradual thawing
    process. They at first refused to give the formula and
    process to the scientific team, and threatened to leave the
    above mentioned personnel in that cryogenic state forever
    unless the scientists cooperated on some certain issues."

    6. He also told me about some "alien" technics concerning
    time travel, Dimensional travel, related to unified field
    physics.

    After revealing these seemingly fantastic things to me over a
    3 week period of time he quit the temporary fob here. I
    finally found out that his father Robert _________ Sr.
    (Robert used to be Robert _________ Jr. before his father and
    mother divorced and he took the name of his mothers second
    husband, ______.) worked with me in the metal finishing
    department. The following was told to me by Robert _________
    Sr. on Dec 16, 1986:

    "On the evening of Wednesday, Dec. 3, 1986, my son Robert
    ______ called me via the telephone (he hadn't been home for
    over a week) he sounded as if he were scared to death. He
    said I have to go back to Colorado immediately. I asked
    why. He said, The bounty hunters found me and told me that
    I had to go back with them to the base in Colorado because I
    know to much. I asked if there were any way he could beat
    them and get out of it? Robert stated, They said there is
    no way out. In fact the chief bounty hunter confronted me
    face to face.

    Evidently Robert Jr. tried to beat the bounty hunters. His
    alleged body was found in room #5 of the Walls Motel in Long
    Beach, California, with a gun in his hand and a bullet hole
    through his head. Drugs were found in the room, but not in
    his body. (he was not the drug type).

    The Long Beach Police Dept. investigated the case which ended
    very abruptly with no explanation. When I asked them why the
    case was closed so quickly, they snapped back, Its none of
    your business. The final autopsy report stated that the
    death was a drug related suicide.

    I was not allowed to see the body for one solid week. I
    would call the police, they would say the body was at the
    funeral parlor. The funeral parlor would say we don't have
    the body. This went on back and forth for that one solid
    week. (Dec. 5th - Dec. 12th, 1986) When I was finally
    allowed to view the body, I immediatly could tell it was not
    him!! This body, alleged to be Robert ______, was about 20
    Lbs heavier and about 3 to 4 inches shorter than my son.
    That was not Robert even tho the basic facial feature's were
    his.

    One very significant thing that Robert stated to me before
    his alleged death was, Dad, they are comming to take me
    away. I will give you a code name ______________ (only
    Robert and his father know that code name). If you receive a
    letter, telephone call, or by messenger, sometime in the
    future, this code name, you will know that I am alive. They
    need me for my special DNA, that is why I have to go back.

    Robert has special Occult Powers and has an interest in witch
    craft. he says all of this UFO stuff is directly related to
    witch craft and the occult.

    In February - April 1987 both Robert _________ Sr. and myself
    were under surveillance by what we considered an agent from
    the cover-up group. He went by the name of John Chunn. We
    finally confronted him face to face concerning all of this.
    Needless to say he quit work that day and never came back.
    Robert Sr. has been harassed several times by an individual
    who wanted Robert Sr. to go to the 4 corners area with him .
    On April 16, 1987, he said he would reunite him with his son.
    _________ backed out the last minute.

    Later Robert Sr. was picked up by the police for no reason at
    all and held for one week. When he got back home he found
    out that his place had been ransacked.

    On Nov. 9, 1987, a person riding a motorcycle and dressed
    like a biker approached _________ identifying himsself as Lt.
    Reed or Reade and claimed that he had a Top Secret clearance
    and had access to the files pertaining to the projects that
    his son was still involved in. He said that he would place
    _________ in touch with Robert ______ and said he was working
    in an underground base. He said you cannot find this base on
    any maps or in any military directories.

    Robert ______ was in the following unit.

    HHC 4th STU BU
    ABN
    FBG 31905
    Fort Carson, Colorado

    His Commanding Officer was Capt. Dana _. ______

    Well ____ there it is for what it is worth. You can get in
    touch with Robert Sr. at _________________________________




    (NOTE! All names addresses and phone numbers are in the
    original document and all of this information checks out with
    the Long Beach Police Dept. and with Robert Sr. whom I have
    talked to. The information was sent to a friend of mine in
    exactly this form and he forwarded it to me in exactly the
    form that I have typed it to disc. Bill Cooper)

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  • From Meghan Fitzgerald@1:3634/60 to All on Fri Jun 27 06:30:16 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1052

    PART 9

    WASHINGTON INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    oceanographic and physical sciences

    Dr. Robert I. Sarbacher
    President and Chairman of Board

    November 29, 1983



    Mr.__________________
    _____________________
    _____________________

    Dear Mr.____________:

    I am sorry I have taken so long in answering your letters.
    However, I have moved my office and have had to make a
    number of extended trips.

    To answer your last question in your letter of October 14,
    1983, there is no particular reason I feel I shouldn't or
    couldn't answer any or all of your questions. I am delight-
    ed to answer all of them to the best of my ability.

    You listed some of your questions in your letter of
    September 12th. I will attemp to answer them as you had
    listed them.

    1. Relating to my own experience regarding re-
    covered flying saucers, I had no association with any
    of the people involved in the recovery and have no knowl-
    edge regarding the dates of the recoveries. If I had I
    would send it to you.

    2. Regarding verification that persons you list were
    involved, I can only say this:

    John Von Neuman was definitely involved. Dr. Vannever Bush
    was definitely involved, and I think Dr. Robert Oppenheimer
    also.

    My association with the Research and Development Board under
    Doctor Compton during the Eisenhower administration was
    rather limited so that although I had been invited to
    participate in several discussions associated with the re-
    ported recoveries, I could not personally attend the
    meetings. I am sure that they would have asked Dr. Von
    Braun, and the others that you listed were probably asked and
    may or may not have attended. This is all I know for sure.

    3. I did receive some official reports when I was in my
    office at the Pentagon but all of these were left there as at
    the time we were never supposed to take them out of the
    office.

    4. I do not recall receiving any photographs such as you
    request so I am not in a position to answer.

    5. I have to make the same reply as on No. 4.

    I recall the interview with Dr. Brenner of the Canadian
    Embassy. I think the answers I gave him were the ones you
    listed. Naturally, I was more familiar with the subject
    matter under discussion, at that time. actually, I would
    have been able to give more specific answers had I attend-
    ed the meetings concerning the subject. You must understand
    that I took this assignment as a private contribution. We
    were called "dollar-a-year men". My first responsibility was
    the maintenance of my own business activity so that my
    participation was limited.

    About the only thing I remember at this time is that certain
    materials reported to have come from flying saucer crashes
    were extremely light and very tough. I am sure our
    laboratories analyzed them very carefully.

    There were reports that instruments or people operating these
    machines were also of very light weight, sufficient to
    withstand the tremendous deceleration and acceleration
    associated with their machinery. I remember in talking with
    some of the people at the office that I got the impression
    these "aliens" were constructed like certain insects we have
    observed on earth, wherein because of the low mass the
    inertial forces involved in operation of these instruments
    would be quite low.

    I still do not know why the high order of classification has
    been given and why the denial of the existence of these
    devices.

    I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I suggest you
    get in touch with the others who may be directly involved in
    this program.

    Sincerely yours,

    (SIGNATURE)

    Dr. Robert I. Sarbacher

    P. S. It occurs to me that Dr. Bush's name is inccorrect
    as you have it. Please check the spelling.

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  • From Andrew Squires@1:3634/60 to All on Sun Jun 29 06:22:10 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1054

    PART 11

    It was the same color and texture of the large portion, so it
    was safe to assume that it was part of the shell of the
    craft. It weighed nowhere near enough to be any metal that
    we had ever seen. It even weighed less than any plastic that
    I had seen of a similar size.

    I tried to scratch it with a pocket knife, and even cut away
    a small piece of the edge, but the knife did nothing to it.
    The surface was clear as glass, and stronger than anything we
    had ever seen. It was like trying to scratch the surface of
    glass with a feather. Of course, we had to turn it into the
    security people.

    After the site was secure, the first groups that included
    myself were taken away. There was a very thorough strip
    search prior to us being given jumpsuits, and put into a
    truck for the transportation to a waiting plane. We were
    taken to another area and debriefed before we were allowed to
    return to our normal way of life.

    About three months later, a few of us returned to the site to
    remove the buildings, fill up the hole, and generally put
    the area back into the same shape as it may have been prior
    to the crash. We went through the same type of security
    search and debriefing as we had done the first time.
    Whatever was left of the craft had been removed and sent to -
    unknown-.

    Almost one year to the day, I was sent to another crash site.
    Everything was a repeat of the first time, except that there
    were six of us. Four of us were part of the first crash
    site, and the other two were new. This time the air craft
    was buried so deep into the lower side of a hill that we
    could not get a good look at it.

    The security arrangements were just about the same, and we
    constructed similar buildings around it. It was very close
    to a rerun of the first crash site. Only this time we were
    told, "as a matter of fact it was a top secret experimental
    air craft that had crashed". I could however, manage to see
    the rear end of the craft. It appeared to be the same type
    as the first. The code name of the project was Pluto, as it
    was the first also. Incidently, that was in upstate New
    York, in 1976. I do not know if there were any "people" or
    life forms aboard.

    Several years later, I had an occasion to be in the area of
    site #one. The bartender only recognized me because he
    brought in our first room service the first night we stayed
    there. There was no room service there, but he made his one
    and only exception to the rule for us. He asked me lots of
    questions which of course had no answers for, nor would I
    give any. He told me that he heard that there were lots of
    medical people on the site. He thought that rather odd for
    an electric power station. He assumed that there must have
    been some kind of an accident, or lots of waste material in
    the area. We let it go at that.

    It appears that security was very good, and no one had any
    idea that an air craft had crashed there. I suspect that the
    air craft was fifty feet in diameter and as long as two
    hundred feet. I could be wrong in the length. As I recall
    the under portion of air craft #one had more of a flat
    surface. It was difficult to see, but I do recall the
    difference in the portion of the under surface that I could
    see.

    There were also a few interesting grooves on the top and side
    areas about twenty feet long. We had speculated that either
    a steering fin had been attached, or a place where it could
    slide through from the inside, similar to the type of
    system used to lower wheels on any air craft. First
    speculation!

    In 1978, I was again sent to a crash site. We arrived the
    day after the security people. This time the air craft
    landed in a lake in upstate Pennsylvannia. We went through
    the same motions, and built several buildings on the edge of
    the lake to house the craft, once it was removed from the
    water. Lots of Navy equipment was flown in, and there were
    divers everywhere. The same magnetic field was present as in
    the first two incidents. There was no air craft.

    I spent three weeks there in the event that the buildings had
    to be adjusted. It seems that the divers had located the
    exact spot that the air craft had rested on the bottom, but
    it was gone. There was lots of evidence on the beach that
    something very large had crashed into the lake causing the
    water of the lake to splash ashore, over thirty feet, and
    what was normally a rather clean lake, was suddenly a very
    large mudhole. After three weeks, I left and was subjected
    to the same type of security as the first two times.

    I didn't have to return to dismantle the pre-fab buildings.
    I would think that it was done by others very soon there
    after. There was some thoughts at first that the craft may
    have been buried under the bottom of the lake, but by this
    time, we knew enough about the craft to know if that were the
    case. It was not - it just vanished. Perhaps it was not
    damaged and managed to fly away. That may sound silly, but I
    believe that it is a reasonable conclusion. There was some
    damage to the immediate area. Six large electrical
    transformers, and some other equipment were burnt out and had
    to be replaced by the electric company. The government took
    the electrical equipment and had it flown somewhere else.

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  • From Eddie Wilson@1:3634/60 to All on Wed Jul 2 06:14:41 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1057

    PART 14


    April 20, 1980

    ______________
    ______________
    ______________

    Dear ________,

    I read your letter of the 13th with considerable interest.
    It seems difficult to believe that I have finally found
    someone that is as interested in finding out the true story
    of Project Red Light.

    First of all I would like to address the specific points
    requested in your letter, and then I will expand on them and
    other items as well.

    1. I did not know about the UFO movie prior to reading your
    article.

    2. I found out the name of Project Redlight almost by
    accident. I was ____________________________________________
    in a warehouse at Area 51 and saw a large number of wooden
    shipping crates (the type made with tongue and groove lumber
    and used for shipping heavy items securely) with the code
    name "Project Redlight" written with grease pen or felt tip
    pen. Also on the crates was a stencilled "Edwards AFB" in
    standard military type of letters.

    3. The article in Readers Digest that I referred to was
    about a UFO that flew over the US from the East Coast to
    where it "blew up" somewhere over eastern Nevada. The
    article did not state that the pilot was human. I'm sorry
    for the confusion on this. The reason that I felt that this
    Digest article is important is that I remember a period
    shortly after the date given in the article (I don't
    remember what it was, sorry) everything came to a screeching
    halt at Area 51. As you can see, I am just putting two and
    two together, but I am satisfied that the UFO of the Digest
    article and the UFO of Project Redlight are/were one and the
    same.

    Now for some additional information that has come to mind
    since I talked to you.

    Your report about the motorcycle riders is interesting. I
    can remember hearing similar rumors while I worked on the
    test site and I would not doubt the authenticity of your
    report. The security force at Area 51 while I serviced the
    Area were heavily armed and I considered them dangerous.
    There were several times that I was in the wrong place at the
    right time and had it not been provable that I was not
    snooping or trying to snoop I really don't think I would be
    writing you this letter. Incidentally, the security wore
    standard air police uniforms but looked nothing like any of
    the AP's I have ever dealt with. They were all in their 30's
    to 40's, and looked like dock workers. Also as I remember it
    the only markings they wore just said Air Police. They did
    not have Nellis AFB on anything but a few of their vehicles,
    and I believe that they were assigned to Edwards rather than
    Nellis. The reason I remember this is that it seemed strange
    to me during my first trip to Area 51 I noticed a slight
    difference in their uniforms from Nellis AP's, and I over-
    heard a couple of remarks that indicated they were from
    Edwards.

    Another interesting point. I was accustomed to going out
    onto the Bombing and Gunnery Range and had a number at Indian
    springs (Nellis AFB maintains a forward area base there) to
    call to get clearence onto the range. This was SOP.
    However, in the case of Area 51 I called the security office
    at Area 51. This indicated to me that Nellis AFB had nothing
    to do with the operation of Area 51. Also the designation of
    Area 51 was classified TOP SECRET.

    Incidentally, although I carried a "Q" clearance from the
    Atomic Energy Commission as well as an inter agency TOP
    SECRET clearance I was investigated for a special Air Force
    TOP SECRET clearance in order to operate in Area 51.

    At this point I am going to give you just a series of
    disconnected observations that I made in the hope that they
    may tie in with something you or Len Stringfield may know.

    1. I saw some crates being unloaded from a cargo plane. The
    aircraft was a super constellation with standard markings and
    had nothing to indicate it had any military connections.
    There was no airline name on it.

    2. I only saw the UFO one time. It was on the ground and
    partly hidden behind a building and at first I thought it was
    a small private aircraft until I noticed it had no wings or
    tail. I was probably 1/2 mile or farther from it but I would
    guess it 20 to 30 feet in diameter and sort of a pewter color
    rather than bright polished aluminium.

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  • From Billy Lawter@1:3634/60 to All on Thu Jul 3 06:50:43 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1058

    PART 15

    3. The reason I know it flew silently is I was present on a
    number of occasions when it was landing or taking off (I was
    always taken inside and out of view of the runway at these
    times) and at no time did I hear anything that sounded like a
    conventional or any other kind of engine.

    4. I was working on their ______ several times when they
    just_______. However since I was there to work on them I
    really didn't think anything about it. Oh yes, they would
    ___________ again just as suddenly. Also there were a number
    of times that I was called out to work on ______ and could
    not find anything wrong with it.

    5. On of the men that I knew were "Pilots" was just slightly
    larger than me.

    6. Most of the test flights occurred in the daytime rather
    than at night.

    7. The radio frequency they used at that time was in the
    regular commercial VHF band and was a simplex frequency. At
    one time I had the Freq. written down but I have no idea now
    what it was. Anyway, i really think that someone with a
    scanner could pick them up if they were to park on the road
    to the east of the test site and use some kind of directional
    antenna.

    8. Before I send this letter I will try to get a USC&GS map
    of the area and will mark the location of Area 51 on it.

    9. There was a Radar Station at the north end of the test
    site near the town of Tonopah, Nevada. A fellow from my home
    town of _______,________ was an operator there. His name is
    __________ __________ . We were talking about the test site
    one day when he mentioned that he was always picking up UFO's
    over the test site but was told to ignore them. I remember
    him telling about one that he picked up on the edge of his
    RBI on the first revolution was directly overhead on the
    second pass and was just going off the scope on the third
    revolution of the antenna.

    10. For some reason I seem to remember that the Redlight is
    spelled Redlight i.e. all one word.

    11. I always had the impression that the flight test area
    was from Area 51 north because there is a natural valley that
    runs in that direction for 200 miles or so. Also the area
    to the south was more populated. Also I entered Area 51 from
    the north and there were a couple of times that i was
    questioned about whether I had 'noticed' anything on the way
    in.

    12. I was reminded constantly that no matter what I saw I
    could be in serious trouble if I ever talked about any of it.
    I can't stress how much how tight the security was, it was
    almost paranoid.

    13. I don't think this has anything to do with Redlight, but
    I remember when I was a kid back in the 40's, on two
    occasions I saw a story about UFO's included in the weekly
    Pathe' News. There was one story about a UFO that had
    crashed somewhere and another story about a UFO that was
    found in some farmers barn. Both of those stories were given
    the usual news treatment. The reason that I am mentioning
    this is that I recently read an article about the entire
    library of Pathe' movie film being given to an institution of
    some kind which would make it available to researchers. I am
    certain that if these film clips could be located they would
    be useful. Realizing that these stories appeared prior to
    Blue Book and at a time of Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon,
    there is probably a better than even chance that they can be
    located by someone willing to spend the time viewing a few
    hundred hours of old news film.

    14. More on item #7, the air-to-ground frequencies were in
    the 200mc range. I believe there is a standard set of air-to
    -ground or government frequencies either just above or just
    below the 220mc ham band and their communications were on
    those frequencies.

    Well there you have it ______. I hope that I have shed some
    light on some dark areas. Should any other thoughts come to
    mind that I feel may be important I will try to catch you on
    the ____________. Hopefully if I can get things settled down
    to a dull roar I will be able to start checking in on a more
    permanent basis. Of course, should you have any questions or
    want further clarification please contact me.


    (signature)

    NOTE...Any information that would identify the sender or
    recipient of this letter has been deleted in order to protect
    them. The original document contains both names and
    addresses but will be given to no one without their
    permission. The reason Len Stringfields name is left in is
    that he is a known UFO researcher and it cannot hurt him as
    he was not the sender or receiver.

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  • From Beth Martin@1:3634/60 to All on Fri Jul 4 06:40:29 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1059

    PART 16

    CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY TOP SECRET
    WASHINGTON, D.C. 20505

    June 24, [BLANK]


    [BLANK]

    [BLANK]/MJ12

    Executive Briefing {Memo}

    Yesterday R2 requested briefing on Project "A". In particular,
    he wanted update info from [BLANK]. MJ3 advised that that
    info was not available to R2. Apparently, White House requested
    info because of [ BLANK ]. Can't seem
    to make those fools realize [BLANK] info is not available for
    any dissemination, per EO 01156, regardless of who requests
    info. Contact T-2P and see if he can assume custody of the
    matter.

    Don't allow AF to evaluate IDENT info. They may open up a
    little too much. KEND-3 can assist to some extent.



    MJ5





    TOP SECRET


    HANDLE ON STRICT
    NEED TO KNOW BASIS


    TO: All interested parties

    FROM: Allen Benz
    Foundation for UFO Research
    Box 182
    Tucson, AZ 85702-0182


    SUBJECT: WILLIAM S. "Bill" ENGLISH

    Recently we received a letter from Bill English which states
    in part:
    It's come to my attention that I've been the subject
    of much speculation on the Paranet out of Phoenix, and
    that several people have called my father at his
    office in Phoenix. All trying to find out if I am
    indeed his son and/or if I'm alive...[please] put
    out a message on the net telling everyone that I'm
    alive and well and that I request that they not
    bother my father anymore. I think he's about to
    blow a gasket.

    Anyone wishing to contact Bill English may do so by contacting us
    at the above mailing address.



    QUESTIONS ON AQUARIUS

    by Christian P. Lambright


    It has been said that there are three kinds of people, those
    who make things happen, those who watch things happen, and those who wonder...what happened...? It seems that nothing more true could be
    said of the types of people involved in the arena of UFO interest.
    The recent controversy concerning the alleged project entitled "AQUARIUS"
    and the control group labeled "MJ-12" seems a prime example of the
    confusion that results from lack of communication between interested
    parties. Is there a project AQUARIUS which deals with UFOs? Who first discovered that such a project existed? If the documentation supporting
    the existence of an "MJ-12" group is valid, as some contend, then
    why does it appear full of discrepancies? These are questions that
    need to be addressed before any attempt can be made to judge the validity
    of the issues.

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  • From Meghan Fitzgerald@1:3634/60 to All on Sat Jul 5 06:32:04 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1060

    PART 17

    As any good detective can tell, motivation is a helpful key
    in solv-ing any crime or mystery. Who would stand to gain by the situation
    at hand? Perhaps a little of this line of reasoning would help in
    solving the current mystery of AQUARIUS/MJ-12. The revelation of a
    UFO-related project by the name of AQUARIUS first appeared on the
    scene in what has commonly been referred to as the "NASA-telex"
    [AQUARIUS.DOC]. This is the allegedly genuine document which describes
    several pieces of photographic film relating to incidents at Kirtland
    AFB and the case of Paul Bennewitz. As most knowledgeable people are
    aware, this document relates quite a bit of interesting information
    pertaining to official interest in UFOs as well as mentioning the
    existence of project AQUARIUS and something called "MJ-12". However,
    several key areas in this document were deleted by either the original
    source or by the recipient. It is interesting to note that there is
    a retyped version of this document which has circulated with the deletions filled-in, but with no explanation as to who retyped it or how the
    previously deleted areas were uncovered.

    Reportedly Peter Gersten was shown this document in 1983 and
    so it would seem that it has been around for several years. But if
    Gersten was the original recipient he has not revealed where he obtained
    it or from whom. This document would appear to be closely tied to
    the events at Kirtland AFB in 1980 inasmuch as it mentions Bennewitz
    and the Air Force interest in UFO sightings over military bases. Could
    the release of this document be related to the release of the initial document(s) concerning the events at Kirtland? [KIRTLND1.DOC, KIRTLND2.DOC] William Moore has stated that he was first given the initial Kirtland
    documents in Washington DC in early 1982 by an unnamed source. And
    there have been several rumors circulated concerning heated arguments
    between Moore and Gersten over the means by which Gersten obtained
    these documents. Rumors aside, if Moore received his documents over
    one year after the incidents occurred then whoever gave him these
    copies must have had access to them either from AFOSI files in Washington
    or from the original sender at Kirtland. There are indications that
    William Moore received his copies from Richard Doty, the AFOSI Special
    Agent at Kirtland AFB. Other sources have also reported that Doty
    was involved in an effort to get information of this nature out to
    certain individuals for purposes unknown. And so it seems possible
    that Doty was responsible for the Kirtland documents and perhaps the "NASA-telex" being released as he would have been in a position to
    have access to such information. Regardless, it would fall to serious
    UFO researchers to attempt to verify if the documents conveyed valid information, or disinformation.

    As interest began to focus on AQUARIUS and "MJ-12" several
    different FOIA requests were filed with various government agencies
    to try to garn-ish information on these subjects, but as recently
    as 1986 most of the leading figures in Ufology were convinced that
    the document was a forgery and that Project AQUARIUS was nonexistent.

    In 1985 I had filed several different requests with government agencies requesting information on three projects: Sigma, Snowbird and Aquarius;
    as well as any information pertaining to MJ-12 or Majestic-12. I
    specifically did not mention any connection or interest dealing with
    UFOs in these requests. With the exception of the National Security
    Agency every response I received was a denial of any knowledge of
    any of these subjects or titles. While they stated that Sigma and
    Snowbird were "not projects of this agency" and that they had no knowledge
    of MJ-12, they estimated that search fees for all information on Project AQUARIUS would be $15,000! It would appear that this is a rather expansive project. After several subsequent requests for clarification and to
    simply send the initial document which initiated the project the NSA
    stated that the project did not deal with "UFOs" and that as I would
    not be paying the fees they were concluding action on my requests.
    Subsequent appeals only clarified that Project AQUARIUS was classified
    Top Secret and that release of any portion of it could pose "grave
    danger to the national security." [AQUANSA.DOC]

    Several individuals have considered the statement by the NSA
    that AQUARIUS does not deal with UFOs to be patently honest, and perhaps
    this is the truth. However I believe that to have expected the NSA
    to "rollover" and openly reveal otherwise would be naive to say the
    least. It seems paradoxical that some "researchers" both expect these
    agencies to be deceptive but will readily accept some statements as
    totally accurate. I believe that there are sufficient reasons to suspect
    that the NSA project may actually be the project which is indicated
    in the "NASA-telex" which originally mentioned it and MJ-12.

    In the process of trying to verify the above document I had
    addressed a series of letters to what was designated the 7602 Air
    Intelligence Group (7602 AINTELG), as of 1983 known as the Air Force
    Special Activities Center. A Branch of the Air Force Intelligence
    Service, the 7602 AINTELG deals with human resource intelligence,
    much the same as the 4602 AINTELG which is known to have aided Edward
    Ruppelt in his investi-gations several years ago. This may or may
    not be coincidence and could be an interesting avenue for further
    research. Nevertheless, in the process of trying to get information
    on this group I had been receiving somewhat evasive response letters
    from AFIS. In a conversation with an Air Force source in which I had
    referred to my problems in obtaining information on this group I was
    informed that perhaps this is due to the fact that "they are a branch
    of the NSA!" This was at the time my first indication that there may
    be some NSA involvement, and was prior to my letters to NSA itself.
    Within a few months I was to learn another interesting fact pointing
    to the NSA.

    With the aid of well known researcher Thomas Adams I was notified
    of a person who reportedly had heard a very interesting statement
    concerning the initial AQUARIUS/MJ-12 document. After speaking with
    this gentleman personally I was firmly convinced that the information
    he was relating was accurate as it had been told to him. He related
    that he had been told personally that this document had been changed
    in two ways, and that he had been told this by the individual who had
    changed it. Although both changes were not revealed, he had been told
    that the reference in the document to "NASA" had originally been "NSA"!
    And who was the person doing the telling ...none other than William
    Moore. In a brief conversation with Moore after this in which I asked
    him if he had any knowledge of this he simply stated "No comment."

    end of part 17


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  • From Jerry Woody@1:3634/60 to All on Sun Jul 6 06:14:24 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1061

    PART 18

    The recent issue of JUST CAUSE also contains the statement by
    Larry Fawcett and Barry Greenwood that they have been told that this
    document is actually a retyped version. This fact was reportedly
    revealed in 1983 to Peter Gersten by an Air Force officer and was
    either forgotten or over-looked until just recently. However, the Air
    Force source who is cited is said to be none other than Richard Doty
    himself.

    In light of the fact that it has recently become common knowledge
    that Mr. Moore does (for his own reasons) delete documents which he
    obtains, and that he is rather aggressive in his research, I believe
    that Mr. Moore did in fact retype or have this document retyped. But
    does this negate the value of the document, or indicate that it is
    a hoax? Perhaps this explains why no one can verify if the document
    is genuine, because technically it is a forgery. It would appear that
    it is up to Mr. Moore to reveal a clean, accurate version and to finally
    reveal the facts behind its acquisition.

    According to film producer and director Linda Moulton Howe,
    she has had independent confirmation of MJ-12 and reportedly was shown
    a set of documents containing much of the same, if not identical,
    information. However, the actual name of the group in question was
    not "Majestic" but another similar sounding word containing the letters
    M and J. Could it be that the term "Majestic" was a substitution in
    a clever attempt to withhold a key bit of information which only someone
    with true inside information would be able to identify?

    If there is reason to question the accuracy of the information
    pre-sented in the original AQUARIUS/MJ-12 document as well as the
    information in the recent documents pertaining to MJ-12, does this
    logically imply that the 1980 Kirtland/Bennewitz events should be
    considered questionable? Any single-witness UFO sighting has always
    been somewhat questionable, this is exactly why we look for multiple
    witnesses and any other supporting evidence. If Richard Doty, or Paul
    Bennewitz were alone in reporting these incidents then the Kirtland
    events would never have become as major an issue as they have. However
    there were numerous individuals involved not only in the events
    precipitating preparation of the documents themselves. A brief summary
    of the incidents is as follows:-

    Early 1980, Paul Bennewitz becomes involved in observing and
    filming objects which he has sighted on the ground and in the
    air near Kirtland AFB and the Manzano range. Reportedly his
    wife was also present to witness some of the first landings
    he witnessed and filmed in the Coyote Canyon area. Subsequently
    he contacts Earnest Edwards of the Kirtland Security Police who,
    over the period of the next few months, becomes concerned and
    requests the guards on the Manzano Weapons Storage Area report
    to him any sightings of unusual aerial lights. At the beginning
    of August 1980 three guards report sighting an aerial light
    which descends on the Sandia Military Reservation. This is
    the first sighting described in the complaint form signed by
    Richard Doty. Edwards reports the sighting to Doty unaware that
    Doty has already heard from Russ Curtis (Sandia Security Chief)
    that a Sandia Security guard sighted a disc-shaped object near
    a structure just minutes after the sighting by the three Manzano
    guards. Doty includes these reports and several others in his
    Complaint Form and forwards the report to AFOSI Headquarters
    in Washington.


    From this point on many other persons became involved. Bennewitz was
    called down to a meeting at Kirtland AFB at which several major Air
    Force officers and Sandia personnel were present, including a Brigadier General. Earnest Edwards has confirmed that the three guards under
    his command reported what was described, and that the meeting took
    place. Bennewitz has confirmed that Doty and Jerry Miller came to
    his home to view his materials and there is a document signed by Thomas
    A. Cseh, Commander of the Base Investigative Detachment, to confirm
    this. Finally there is the complete set of documents which were released
    by AFOSI Headquarters under cover of the Department of the Air Force
    relating to the described events.

    There seem to be only two possibilities to consider. One: that
    this is one of the most profound deceptions that has been undertaken
    with the sanction of the USAF, involving a civilian, for purposes
    which can only be imagined. The other: that the events happened as
    described and that the intervening years, subsequent developments,
    and misguided researchers, have only clouded the facts. Perhaps there
    was also some effort made on an official level to defuse the sensitive
    nature of the events.

    Would Richard Doty have perpetrated a hoax, involved other
    officers in his deception, sent the hoax on to AFOSI Headquarters,
    and then spread certain information to civilian UFO researchers? For
    what purpose? And would he still be in the Air Force if he was discovered, knowing the public relations catastrophe that could result from AFOSI
    in Washington releasing the subsequent documents? It seems inconceivable
    that the Base Investigative Detachment, and the Department of the
    Air Force, would not have quickly and easily discovered the hoax and subsequently labeled the entire matter as such, knowing their previous predilection to do just that.

    A few simple telephone calls have served to clarify much of
    the truth of the initial incidents. We must avoid the temptation at
    times to "shoot first and ask questions later" which can result in
    spreading misinformation ourselves. It is advisable to use tact in
    approaching witnesses as we have no God-given right to call up strangers
    and demand that they answer questions, particularly when sensitive
    matters may be involved. Is it any surprise that some of these people
    may not want to be bothered by every person who plies them with questions?

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  • From Jerry Woody@1:3634/60 to All on Mon Jul 7 06:30:19 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1062

    PART 19

    A very bizarre but intriguing letter was sent to APRO in either
    late 1980 or early 1981 and is commonly referred to by the name of
    the initial subject of the letter, a Mr. Craig Weitzel. This letter
    refers to a sequence of events which occurred in the mid-1980's at
    both Kirtland AFB and in an area near Pecos, NM and also makes several statements to the effect that there is a UFO-investigation detachment
    stationed at or near Kirtland. The writer also goes on to mention
    among other things that there is at least one "object" stored in the
    Manzano storage area. That the letter was at least legitimately received
    at APRO can be ascertained by the vehement letter which Jim Lorenzen
    mailed out rebuking the gentleman who released this letter without
    official permission from APRO. However, can we determine if this letter
    is a total hoax or is there even a grain of truth to be found in the information it conveys? In a conversation I had with Craig Weitzel
    he claimed to know nothing of the details related in the letter, and
    denied that he took any photographs. Strangely enough, however, he
    did state that he and the other did see an unusual silvery object
    hovering high in the sky which left the area, to use his words, "exponentially"! He had been training in mountain rescue operations
    and he and the others had spelled out S-O-S on the mountain side using parachutes and were waiting for the rescue helicopters to spot them.
    While looking for these helicopters they notices the silvery "UFO".
    If this is all that occurred what could be the reason to fabricate
    such a letter and yet give the name and address of a witness who was
    sure to refute the claims? Was it just a bizarre practical joke? The
    author of the anonymous letter claims that after Weitzel spoke with
    AFOSI agent Dody (sic) he did not want to have anything more to do
    with the matter and subsequently the Dody character denied that there
    had been any photographs. Was this a circumstance that could have
    been expected based on previous experience with Air Force handling
    of such matters? Many government and military witnesses often refuse
    to talk about their experiences to strangers either because of official pressure or simply for the sake of their own privacy. Motivation again
    must be considered in efforts to find the complete truth.

    In early October 1987 I had a strange conversation with an individual
    who is unknown to me except by first name and who initially knew
    absolutely nothing about my interest in UFOs. During a telephone
    conversation which took place totally by chance, the subject of nuclear
    weapons came up as this person indicated some knowledge of this
    weaponry, being at the time a member of the Air Force. I jokingly
    asked to know everything there was to know about Kirtland AFB, but
    not due to my interest in nuclear weapons per se but because of something
    else I thought may be stored at Manzano that "isn't nuclear weapons."
    After a momentary chuckle this individual said, "yes...UFOs!" As astounded
    as I was I asked for a little clarification, and after relating my
    interest, I was told that there are two "objects" stored in the Manzano
    area from what this person had heard during conversations by Air Force personnel in Germany. There had been some discussion about something
    which was related to a UFO incident widely reported in German newspapers
    in 1981 being similar to something which "they" had "over here."
    Because of the circumstances under which this conversation occurred
    and the fact that I had in no way even alluded to the subject I believe
    that this may offer some support to some of the statements made in
    the anonymous "Weitzel" letter.

    A final note of interest has come up in the newly released book
    on the "flying boomerang" objects reported in recent years in and
    around New York state [NIGHT SIEGE, Ballantine 1987]. In the process
    of investigating these incidents Hynek and Imbrogno were contacted
    by an individual who claimed to work for the NSA. They apparently
    verified this to their own satisfaction, and while this person professed
    that his interest was only personal, they were struck by the inordinate
    amount of interest this person showed in their investigations and
    any evidence they uncovered. There are even indications that their
    telephones may have been tapped. While it is unknown if this man's
    interest went further than personal curiosity, it is clear that the investigators felt there was something unusual about it. Nevertheless,
    here is yet another instance in which the National Security Agency
    seems to have crept into the picture.

    Do the facts as outlined here cast reasonable suspicion on the
    NSA and its part in official interest in unidentified flying objects?
    I believe that they do and that there is justifiable cause to suspect
    that the project AQUARIUS which relates (at least in some way) to
    UFOs is probably an NSA, or NSA related project. It also still seems
    that in spite of the arguments and confusion concerning documents,
    the designation "MJ-12" must be considered if not a certainty, than
    at least potentially valid. Those who have taken the time to contact
    witnesses and obtain their statements and help, have the best chance
    to make up their minds for themselves, regardless of the confusion
    concerning altered documents which seems to be precipitating furiously.
    We do not want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water
    simply because the facts seem confusing. Perhaps even the confusion
    is being directed by someone somewhere. We should keep our sights
    fixed firmly on the major issues and the facts we can prove in our
    efforts to uncover the truth.

    END

    Thanks to all those sources both named and unnamed who have contributed
    to the facts outlined here.

    end of part 19


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  • From Beth Martin@1:3634/60 to All on Thu Jul 10 06:46:24 2025
    SUBJECT: The Majestic Twelve FILE: UFO1065

    PART 22

    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES ------------------------------------------------------------------
    23 September 1947
    SUBJECT: AMC Opinion Concerning "Flying Discs"
    TO: Commanding General
    Army Air Forces
    Washington 25, D.C.

    ATTENTION: Brig. General George Schulgen
    AC/AS-2

    1. As requested by AC/AS-2 there is presented below the considered
    opinion of this command concerning the so-called "Flying Discs."
    This opinion is based on interrogation report data furnished by AC/AS-2
    and preliminary studies by personnel of T-2 and Aircraft Laboratory, Engineering Division T-3. This opinion was arrived at in a conference
    between personnel from the Air Institute of Technology, Intelligence
    T-2, Office, Chief of Engineering Division, and the Aircraft, Power
    Plant and Propeller Laboratories of Engineering Division T-3.

    2. It is the opinion that:

    a. The phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or
    fictitious.

    b. There are objects probably approximately the shpe of a disc,
    of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made
    aircraft.

    c. There is the possibility that some of the incidents may be caused
    by natural phenomena, such as meteors.

    d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates
    of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action
    which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by
    friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility
    that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically
    or remotely.

    e. The apparent common description of the objects is as follows:

    (1) Metallic or light reflecting surface.

    (2) Absence of trail, except in a few instances when the object
    apparently was operating under high performance conditions.

    (3) Circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed
    on top.

    (4) Several reports of well kept formation flights varying from
    three to nine objects.

    (5) Normally no associated sound, except in three instances
    a substantial rumbling roar was noted.

    [6] Level flight speeds normally about 300 knots are estimated.



    Continued on Next One


    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT DOCUMENT FILES ------------------------------------------------------------------
    2
    LETTER FROM GENERAL N.F. TWINING TO COMMANDING GENERAL,
    ARMY AIR FORCES 23 SEPTEMBER 1947 ------------------------------------------------------------------

    f. It is possible within the present U.S. knowledge - provided
    extensive detailed development is undertaken--to construct
    a piloted aicraft which has the general description of the
    object in subparagraph (e) above which would be capable of
    an approximate range of 700 miles at subsonic speeds.

    g. Any devlopments in this country along the lines indicated would
    be extremely expensive, time consuming and at the considerable
    expense of current projects and therefore, if directed, should
    be set up independently of existing projects.

    h. Due consideration must be given the following:

    (1) The possibility that these objects are of domestic
    origin the product of some high security project not
    known to AC/AS-2 or this command.

    [2) The lack of physical evidence in the shape of crash
    recovered exhibits which would undeniably prove the
    existence of these objects.

    (3) The possibility that some foreign nation has a form
    of propulsion possibly nuclear, which is outside of
    our domestic knowledge.

    3. It is recommended that:

    a. Headquarters, Army Air Forces issue a directive assigning a
    priority, security classification and code name for a detailed
    study of this matter to include the preparation of complete
    sets of all available and pertinent data which will then be
    made available to the Army , Navy, Atomic Energy Commission,
    JRDB, the Air Force Scientific Advisory Group, NACA, and the
    RAND and NEPA projects for comments and recommendations, with
    a preliminary report to be forwarded within 15 days of receipt
    of the data and a detailed report thereafter every 30 days
    as the investigation develops. A complete interchange of data
    should be effected.

    4. Awaiting a specific directive AMC will continue the investigation
    within its current resources in order to more closely define the
    nature of the phenomenon. Detailed Essential Elements of Information
    will be formulated immediately for transmittal thru channels.

    N.F. TWINING
    Lieutenant General, U.S.A.
    Commanding.

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