I've posted this on fsxNet BBS also, but have not seen any responses. So thought I would post it here also since it is specific to synchronet configuration.

I'm working on configuring my bbs which uses synchronet, to receive
usenet groups from fsxNet.

Avon has configured my access. I can commuicate with areafix and add/remove groups.

I just cannot seem to get the message area/sub-boards/echolist all configured, correctly :-(

Would love some assistance. Maybe sample sbbsecho.ini examples, etc.
to be able to pull in the usenet groups.

TIA

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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Jul 10 2024 10:15 am

I've posted this on fsxNet BBS also, but have not seen any responses. So thought I would post it here also since it is specific to synchronet configuration.

I'm working on configuring my bbs which uses synchronet, to receive
usenet groups from fsxNet.

Avon has configured my access. I can commuicate with areafix and add/remove groups.

I just cannot seem to get the message area/sub-boards/echolist all configured, correctly :-(

How so?

Would love some assistance. Maybe sample sbbsecho.ini examples, etc.
to be able to pull in the usenet groups.

I wasn't aware that there are usenet groups on fsxNet. Are you sure about that?

Also, sbbsecho.ini doesn't include any information about message areas (i.e. echoes or sub-boards).
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I've posted this on fsxNet BBS also, but have not seen any responses. So thought I would post it here also since it is specific to synchronet configuration.

I'm working on configuring my bbs which uses synchronet, to receive
usenet groups from fsxNet.

Avon has configured my access. I can commuicate with areafix and add/remove groups.

I just cannot seem to get the message area/sub-boards/echolist all configured,
correctly :-(

Would love some assistance. Maybe sample sbbsecho.ini examples, etc.
to be able to pull in the usenet groups.

TIA

Avon posted over there and explained the problem a little better. Avon says that the messages from your system are coming through without the dots '.' in the echo tags. He said you were looking for examples of how othes have
them set up with synchronet. Over here, I get several newsgroups from
Avon via FSXnet. I set them up in my AREAS.BBS like so:

<sbbs internal code> <FTN echo tag> <link(s)>
ALT.BBS ALT.BBS 21:1/10
BBS.ADS ALT.BBS.ADS 21:1/10
ALLSYSOP ALT.BBS.ALLSYSOP 21:1/10
COBOL COMP.LANG.COBOL 21:1/10
COMP.TI COMP.SYS.TI 21:1/10
F1 REC.AUTOS.SPORT.F1 21:1/10
MODELRR REC.MODELS.RAILROAD 21:1/10
RAILFANS MISC.TRANSPORT.RAIL.AMERICAS 21:1/10

I suspect maybe you are missing the dots '.' in the second column.

I can confirm I am receiving messages in the above echos, that I can post,
and that I will sometimes receive responses.

I think there *might* be a newfangled way to set up echoes that doesn't use
the AREAS.BBS file. If you are using that method, then someone else will
need to offer assistance as this is the method I use and am familiar with.


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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Jul 10 2024 10:15 am

How so?

I was manually importing a list, and trying to create sub boards for the newsgroups.

I wasn't aware that there are usenet groups on fsxNet. Are you sure about that?

https://fsxnet.nz/fsxnet/usenet

I don't recall it being in the fsxNet application, but either on Avon's BBS or some other document I saw the UseNet option.
So you just have to request it, and he sets up access to a different server that he manages usenet from.

Also, sbbsecho.ini doesn't include any information about message areas (i.e. echoes or sub-boards).

I think my "newbie" is showing here. I should not have been talking about sbbsecho.ini, but how to
create the message sub-boards. I think Mike answered my question in next posting, and I'm trying to add
the groups he list; and see if I can get something working.

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Thanks. Maybe this is what I needed. But obviously didn't know how to ask, due to being a newbie to synchronet.

I'm going to use your example, and see if I can build the message areas again with the correct tags. Thanks for
the example.

Fingers crossed, that this will get things working bi-directionally for me to get USENET working!

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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sy
By: Mike Powell to AMESSYROOM on Thu Jul 11 2024 10:29 am

<sbbs internal code> <FTN echo tag> <link(s)>
ALT.BBS ALT.BBS 21:1/10
BBS.ADS ALT.BBS.ADS 21:1/10
ALLSYSOP ALT.BBS.ALLSYSOP 21:1/10
COBOL COMP.LANG.COBOL 21:1/10
COMP.TI COMP.SYS.TI 21:1/10
F1 REC.AUTOS.SPORT.F1 21:1/10
MODELRR REC.MODELS.RAILROAD 21:1/10
RAILFANS MISC.TRANSPORT.RAIL.AMERICAS 21:1/10

Tried using areas.bbs and then creatin message subboard. My message
area internal name is call UN and is prepended to the internal name
for the sub-boards I create for their internal names.

So I've tried changing areas to UN_RAILFANS, etc. and see if this works.

I don't want to post to a non-test group. I try using /R=XXX to rescan 100 messages, but don't see any messages in any of the usenet groups yet.

So not sure if things are working or not.

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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Thu Jul 11 2024 03:31 pm

Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Jul 10 2024 10:15 am

How so?

I was manually importing a list, and trying to create sub boards for the newsgroups.

Import what kind of list (i.e. what filename or format)? Import into what program?
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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sy
By: Mike Powell to AMESSYROOM on Thu Jul 11 2024 10:29 am

<sbbs internal code> <FTN echo tag> <link(s)>
ALT.BBS ALT.BBS 21:1/10
BBS.ADS ALT.BBS.ADS 21:1/10
ALLSYSOP ALT.BBS.ALLSYSOP 21:1/10
COBOL COMP.LANG.COBOL 21:1/10
COMP.TI COMP.SYS.TI 21:1/10
F1 REC.AUTOS.SPORT.F1 21:1/10
MODELRR REC.MODELS.RAILROAD 21:1/10
RAILFANS MISC.TRANSPORT.RAIL.AMERICAS 21:1/10

I suspect maybe you are missing the dots '.' in the second column.

I can confirm I am receiving messages in the above echos, that I can post, and that I will sometimes receive responses.

It is working. The area.bbs was a big part of getting things connected.

But for unknown reason in my sbbsecho.ini binkppoll was NOT set to true.
So I wasn't pulling my messages that were being HELD.

I then observed messages were being filtered by age (so I tuned that
via echocfg).

I also figured out it seems the internal name in areas.bbs is limited to
19 characters (in my config). So the message area has the internal name
of UN_ so that means I only have 16 characters for the rest of the internal name in my areas BBS.

Sample from my areas.bbs
UN_COMPUNIXMISC COMP.UNIX.MISC 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXPROGRAMM COMP.UNIX.PROGRAMMER 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXQUESTION COMP.UNIX.QUESTIONS 21:1/10

If there is a way to increase the length of the internal names, let me know. Maybe I will need to abbreviate the group i.e. C for COMP U for Unix

This is great! Thank you so much.

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It is working. The area.bbs was a big part of getting things connected.

Good deal!

But for unknown reason in my sbbsecho.ini binkppoll was NOT set to true.
So I wasn't pulling my messages that were being HELD.

I *think* that one is set false via default and you have to set it to true
if you are going to use binkit. Some folks use other methods besides
binkit, but I find it easy to use and being native to synchronet means I
don't have to set a bunch of extra stuff up to use it.

I also figured out it seems the internal name in areas.bbs is limited to
19 characters (in my config). So the message area has the internal name
of UN_ so that means I only have 16 characters for the rest of the internal name in my areas BBS.

I *think* in the SCFG that my version comes with, the code for each
individual message area is limited to 8. Of course, you also have the
prefix from the message groups (what you have set to 'UN_') and I don't remember the size restriction on that one. I try to keep mine short and
simple while being enough that I can remember which echo is which.

Sample from my areas.bbs
UN_COMPUNIXMISC COMP.UNIX.MISC 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXPROGRAMM COMP.UNIX.PROGRAMMER 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXQUESTION COMP.UNIX.QUESTIONS 21:1/10

If there is a way to increase the length of the internal names, let me know. Maybe I will need to abbreviate the group i.e. C for COMP U for Unix

I am not aware of a way to increase that length, but I am sure that digital
man or someone will know if it can be done.

This is great! Thank you so much.

No problem. Glad you got it working.


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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Digital Man to Amessyroom on Thu Jul 11 2024 05:53 pm

Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet groups
By: Amessyroom to Digital Man on Thu Jul 11 2024 03:31 pm

Re: Crosspost: Configuring sychronet to work with fsxNet Usenet group
By: Amessyroom to All on Wed Jul 10 2024 10:15 am

How so?

I was manually importing a list, and trying to create sub boards for the newsgroups.

Import what kind of list (i.e. what filename or format)? Import into what program?

List of USENET groups (group , description).
Import through scfg for sub-boards in Usenet Message Area

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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sy
By: Amessyroom to Mike Powell on Thu Jul 11 2024 11:09 pm

I then observed messages were being filtered by age (so I tuned that
via echocfg).

Message purging by age is a sub-board option in SCFG (not echocfg).

I also figured out it seems the internal name in areas.bbs is limited to
19 characters (in my config). So the message area has the internal name
of UN_ so that means I only have 16 characters for the rest of the internal name in my areas BBS.

Sample from my areas.bbs
UN_COMPUNIXMISC COMP.UNIX.MISC 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXPROGRAMM COMP.UNIX.PROGRAMMER 21:1/10
UN_COMPUNIXQUESTION COMP.UNIX.QUESTIONS 21:1/10

If there is a way to increase the length of the internal names, let me know. Maybe I will need to abbreviate the group i.e. C for COMP U for Unix

Internal code prefixes (for message groups) are limited to 16 characters in SBBS v3.20 and the suffices (for message sub-boards) are limited to 16 characters, for a total internal code length of 32 character maximum.

This is great! Thank you so much.

You're welcome!
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Re: Crosspost: Configuring sy
By: Mike Powell to AMESSYROOM on Fri Jul 12 2024 09:57 am

But for unknown reason in my sbbsecho.ini binkppoll was NOT set to true. So I wasn't pulling my messages that were being HELD.

I *think* that one is set false via default and you have to set it to true if you are going to use binkit.

the init-fidonet.js sets this setting to true:
if(link.BinkpPoll === undefined)
link.BinkpPoll = true;

I also figured out it seems the internal name in areas.bbs is limited to 19 characters (in my config). So the message area has the internal name
of UN_ so that means I only have 16 characters for the rest of the internal name in my areas BBS.

I *think* in the SCFG that my version comes with, the code for each individual message area is limited to 8. Of course, you also have the prefix from the message groups (what you have set to 'UN_') and I don't remember the size restriction on that one. I try to keep mine short and simple while being enough that I can remember which echo is which.

SBBS v3.19 and earlier versions are limited to 16 characters (total) for the internal codes, made up of up to 8 characters of code prefix and 8 characters of code suffix. These maximums were doubled in v3.20.
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REP = QWK Reply
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SBBS v3.19 and earlier versions are limited to 16 characters (total) for the internal codes, made up of up to 8 characters of code prefix and 8 characters of code suffix. These maximums were doubled in v3.20.

Good deal. I probably have not attempted to add an area and use more than
8 characters since upgrading so I had not noticed. ;) Thanks!


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