Hey Nick!

<Esc>:read /proc/version
Linux version 7.0.3 (root@itsii) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0.20260210) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue May 5 02:11:15 UTC 2026

This makes two that are up to speed, both of which have fidonet msg'ing capabilities. It still matters to me.

Дуже груви,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Tue, May 05 2026 14:22:12 -0500, you wrote:

Linux version 7.0.3 (root@itsii) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.0, GNU ld (GNU
Binutils) 2.46.0.20260210) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue May 5
02:11:15 UTC 2026

Linux version 7.0.3-arch1-2 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.1 20260430, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri, 01 May 2026 15:49:22 +0000

This makes two that are up to speed, both of which have fidonet
msg'ing capabilities. It still matters to me.

That depends on what you consider "up to speed" (note the gcc version above). ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

(note the gcc version above). ;)

Yeah, yeah, whatever. I noticed the first time you posted it. Only about 48 hours difference so I can't imagine it being all that different. Is it? ;-)

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Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Tue, 05 May 2026 23:23:02 , you wrote:

(note the gcc version above). ;)

Yeah, yeah, whatever. I noticed the first time you posted it. Only
about 48 hours difference so I can't imagine it being all that
different. Is it? ;-)

That's funny, I posted it because I had just noticed. ;)

.. and no, I doubt it's much different. Hopefully just a spelling error in a comment, or something.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

That's funny, I posted it because I had just noticed. ;)

I saw it on you prior post about linux-7.0.3 but forgot to check the dates. Here is what the gcc ftp sire reports;

-rw-r--r-- 1 2168 2125 98928272 Apr 25 22:35 gcc-16-20260425.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 2168 2125 102456900 Apr 30 09:08 gcc-16.1.0.tar.xz

Note that the official release is newer by four and a half days. Given that 6.1.0 likely has the more up to date spelling errors.

$ echo 102456900 - 98928272 | bc
3528628

I am guestimating ~3528628 bytes of compressed new and improved spelling errors.

Дуже груви,
Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Tue, May 05 2026 21:24:51 -0500, you wrote:

Apr 30 09:08 gcc-16.1.0.tar.xz

Note that the official release is newer by four and a half days.
Given that 6.1.0 likely has the more up to date spelling errors.

Newer than what? My version is 20260430, so it must have been a hotfix patch the same day as the official release, or something in those lines.

Now that you posted a May date of the same version (16.1.1), I'm confused.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

Newer than what? My version is 20260430, so it must have been a
hotfix patch

I was comparing snapshots at the gcc site since I am not privy to archlinux hacks.

Now that you posted a May date of the same version (16.1.1), I'm
confused.

I got it from the gcc git server. It's all about access.

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Maurice

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Hey Maurice!

On Wed, May 06 2026 17:41:58 -0500, you wrote:

It's all about access.

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 7.0.7-arch2-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.1 20260430, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 14 May 2026 22:28:27 +0000

Crazyness, I tell ya! I think this is the third kernel update this week. :|

Regards,
Nick

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It's all about access.

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 7.0.7-arch2-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.1 20260430, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 14 May 2026 22:28:27 +0000

Crazyness, I tell ya! I think this is the third kernel update this week. :|

The curent linux release is 7.0.8!

The kernel crew is busy these days battling exploits. I think they are all plugged now.

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Hej Nick!

Crazyness, I tell ya! I think this is the third kernel update this
week. :|

Linux version 7.0.8 (root@bitskii) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.1 20260515, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0.20260210) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri May 15 21:54:38 UTC 2026

All the fun of the circus. Send in the clowns ...

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Hello Alan!

15 May 2026 19:46, Alan Ianson wrote to Nick Boel:

The curent linux release is 7.0.8!

with all the AI generated patches :)

The kernel crew is busy these days battling exploits. I think they are all plugged now.

yes Torwalds ask if we just need AI maintained kernels


Regards Benny

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Hello Alan!

15 May 2026 19:46, Alan Ianson wrote to Nick Boel:

The curent linux release is 7.0.8!

with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

The kernel crew is busy these days battling exploits. I think they are
all plugged now.

yes Torwalds ask if we just need AI maintained kernels

It's not a free for all. The (human) developer behind the AI is responsible for his (and his AI) code.

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Hey Alan!

The curent linux release is 7.0.8!

with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

It's all buggery on the high c's! Word on the docks is that is getting rusty.

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Maurice

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The curent linux release is 7.0.8!

with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

It's all buggery on the high c's! Word on the docks is that is getting rusty.

No matter how hard you try.. some things never change.

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Hey Alan!

No matter how hard you try.. some things never change.

Try or not, everything changes always and forever.

Life is good,
Maurice

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On May 15, 2026 07:53pm, Alan Ianson wrote to Nick Boel:

It's all about access.

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 7.0.7-arch2-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 16.1.1 20260430,
GNU
ld (GNU Binutils) 2.46.0) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 14 May 2026 22:28:27 >> +0000

what no 'uname -a'?? LOL

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Hello Alan!

27 May 2026 15:25, Alan Ianson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

how to be sure ?

It's not a free for all. The (human) developer behind the AI is responsible for his (and his AI) code.

yes its just not verifed code always


Regards Benny

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with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

how to be sure ?

Sit back and enjoy! ;)

It's not a free for all. The (human) developer behind the AI is
responsible for his (and his AI) code.

yes its just not verifed code always

I'm not sure what you mean by verified code.

There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

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Hello Alan!

Tuesday June 02 2026 00:52, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

with all the AI generated patches :)

I guess AI bugs are just as good as human bugs. ;)

[skipped]

There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

Unbelievable, but true. Last weeks I saw multiple times that developers are "delegating responsibility"
to LLM. When I'm asking about strange code, silly hidden bugs, strange unit tests, they are answering:
"It is LLM, it's not me".


With best regards, Sergey.

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Hello Alan!

02 Jun 2026 00:52, Alan Ianson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Sit back and enjoy! ;)

borring :)

I'm not sure what you mean by verified code.

human code to ai code is not always good, becurse results is not always good as intended

There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

both can make errors, double errors could be solved :)


Regards Benny

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There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

Unbelievable, but true. Last weeks I saw multiple times that developers are "delegating responsibility"
to LLM. When I'm asking about strange code, silly hidden bugs, strange unit tests, they are answering:
"It is LLM, it's not me".

That's what they say but none the less, it is them whether the code from their own mind/being or their assistant.

I don't think AI will eliminate bugs. They have always and will always exist.

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There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

both can make errors, double errors could be solved :)

A double edged sword if ever there was one.

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Hello Alan!

02 Jun 26, Alan Ianson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

It's not a free for all. The (human) developer behind the AI is
responsible for his (and his AI) code.

There is a human developer behind any AI generated code.

Then it's not AI.

;-)

Kai

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