• FidoNews 40:36 [00/06]: The Front Page

    From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
    The F I D O N E W S Volume 40, Number 36 04 Sep 2023 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
    | |The newsletter of the | | |
    | | FidoNet community. | | Netmail attach to (POTS): |
    | | Est. 1984 | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) |
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    | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:203/0 |
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    | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bjrn Felten |
    | ______ _//|| _\ / | |
    | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
    | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+


    Table of Contents
    1. LIST OF FIDONET IPV6 NODES ............................... 1
    List of IPv6 nodes ....................................... 1
    2. JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST .................................... 4
    The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project ....................... 4
    3. FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ...................... 5
    4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 12
    Statistics from the Fidoweb .............................. 12
    Nodelist Stats ........................................... 13
    5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
    How to Submit an Article ................................. 15
    Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 17

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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
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    LIST OF FIDONET IPV6 NODES =================================================================

    List of IPv6 nodes
    By Michiel van der Vlist, 2:280/5555

    Updated 9 Aug 2023



    Node Nr. Sysop Type Provider Remark

    1 2:280/464 Wilfred van Velzen Native Freedom f
    2 2:280/5003 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f
    3 2:5019/40 Konstantin Kuzov T-6in4 he.net f
    4 2:280/5555 Michiel van der Vlist Native Ziggo f
    5 1:320/219 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    6 2:221/1 Tommi Koivula Native Elisa f
    7 2:221/6 Tommi Koivula Native OVH
    8 1:154/10 Nicholas Boel Native Spectrum f
    9 2:203/0 Bjorn Felten T-6in4 he.net
    10 2:280/5006 Kees van Eeten Native KPN f INO4
    11 3:712/848 Scott Little T-6in4 he.net f
    12 2:5020/545 Alexey Vissarionov T-6in4 he.net f
    13 1:103/17 Stephen Hurd T-6in4 he.net
    14 2:5020/9696 Alexander Skovpen T-6in4 IP4Market
    15 2:421/790 Viktor Cizek Native CZ-IJC-20071015
    16 2:222/2 Kim Heino Native TeliaSonera
    17 3:633/280 Stephen Walsh Native AusNetServers f
    18 1:19/10 Matt Bedynek T-6in4 he.net
    19 3:770/1 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    20 3:770/100 Paul Hayton Native VETTA
    21 2:5053/58 Alexander Kruglikov Native JSC IOT f
    22 1:103/1 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    23 3:633/281 Stephen Walsh Native Internode
    24 2:310/31 Richard Menedetter Native DE-NETCUP f
    25 3:633/410 Tony Langdon Native IINET
    26 2:5020/329 Oleg Lukashin Native Comfortel f
    27 2:2448/4000 Tobias Burchhardt Native DTAG IO
    28 2:331/51 Marco d'Itri Native BOFH-IT
    29 1:154/30 Mike Miller Native LINODE
    30 2:5001/100 Dmitry Protasoff Native OVH
    31 2:5059/38 Andrey Mundirov T-6in4 he.net
    32 2:5083/444 Peter Khanin Native OVH
    33 2:240/5413 Ingo Juergensmann Native RRBONE-COLO f
    34 2:4500/1 Eugene Kozhuhovsky Native DATAHATA6
    35 1:135/300 Eric Renfro Native Amazon.com
    36 1:103/13 Stephen Hurd Native Choopa
    37 2:5020/1042 Michael Dukelsky Native FirstByte
    38 2:5095/0 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    39 2:5095/20 Sergey V. Efimoff T-6in4 he.net
    40 2:5019/400 Konstantin Kuzov Native LT-LT
    41 2:463/1331 Andrei Dzedolik Native DIGITALOCEAN
    42 2:5010/275 Evgeny Chevtaev T-6in4 IP4Market f
    43 2:280/2000 Michael Trip Native KPN
    44 2:230/38 Benny Pedersen Native Linode
    45 2:460/58 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f
    46 2:5020/2332 Andrey Ignatov Native ru.rtk
    47 2:5005/49 Victor Sudakov T-6in4 he.net f
    48 2:5005/106 Alexey Osiyuk T-6in4 he.net f
    49 2:5057/53 Ivan Kovalenko Native ER-Telecom f
    50 2:5010/352 Dmitriy Smirnov Native SAGE-SU-V6
    51 2:292/854 Ward Dossche Native Proximus
    52 2:469/122 Sergey Zabolotny T-6in4 he.net f
    53 2:5053/400 Alexander Kruglikov Native FirstVDS f
    54 2:5030/1997 Alexey Fayans T-6in4 he.net
    55 2:5061/15 Eugene Gladchenko Native ARUBAUK-NET
    56 2:240/502 Ludwig Bernhartzeder Native DTAG
    57 2:423/39 Karel Kral Native WEDOS
    58 2:280/1049 Simon Voortman Native Solcon
    59 2:335/364 Fabio Bizzi Native OVH
    60 1:124/5016 Nigel Reed Native DAL1-US f
    61 2:5030/1520 Andrey Geyko T-6in4 he.net f
    62 1:229/664 Jay Harris Native Rogers f
    63 2:280/2030 Martien Korenblom Native Transip
    64 3:633/509 Deon George Native Telstra
    65 2:5020/4441 Yuri Myakotin Native SOVINTEL
    66 1:320/319 Andrew Leary Native Comcast f
    67 2:240/5824 Anna Christina Nass Native DTAG f
    68 2:460/5858 Stas Mishchenkov T-6in4 he.net f INO4
    69 2:5030/3165 Serg Podtynnyi Native DIGITALOCEAN
    70 2:301/812 Benoit Panizon Native WOODYV6
    71 1:229/616 Vasily Losev Native GIGEPORT
    72 2:301/113 Alisha Stutz T-6in4 he.ne
    73 1:153/7715 Dallas Hinton Native Shaw Comms
    74 1:218/840 Morgan Collins Native Linode
    75 2:5020/921 Andrew Savin Native HURRICANE-IPV6-24
    76 2:240/1634 Hugo Andriessen Native Vodafone
    77 2:280/2040 Leo Barnhoorn Native KPN f
    78 2:5020/736 Egor Glukhov Native RUWEB f
    79 2:221/10 Tommi Koivula Native Hetzner f INO4
    80 1:218/850 John Nicpon Native LINODE-US
    81 2:301/1 Alisha Stutz Native CH-DATAWIRE
    82 1:134/0 Kostie Muirhead Native LINODE-US f INO4
    83 1:134/100 Kostie Muirhead Native LINODE-US f INO4
    84 2:5035/63 Vladimir Goncharov Native RFEIV6NET
    85 2:5020/290 Andrew Kolchoogin T-6in4 he.net
    86 1:218/401 James Downs Native Scaleway PM *1
    87 1:214/22 Ray Quinn T-6in4 he.net
    88 2:5030/49 Sergey Myasoedov Native FR-VIRTUA-SYSTEMS
    89 1:218/820 Ryan Fantus Native DIGITALOCEAN
    90 1:103/705 Rob Swindell Native Spectrum f
    91 2:5020/5858 Alexander Kruglikov T-6in4 IP4Market f
    92 2:292/789 Niels Joncheere T-6in4 he.net
    93 1:135/395 Charles Blackburn Native Charter Comms HOLD
    94 1:134/303 Travis Mehrer Native Shaw Comms
    95 2:5057/19 Max Vasilyev Native ER-Telecom f
    96 2:5075/35 Eugene Subbotin Native RUWEB f
    97 2:5075/37 Andrew Komardin Native IHC
    98 2:5075/128 Eugene Subbotin T-6in4 IP4Market f
    99 2:550/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh Native FirstByte
    100 2:5010/278 Vladislav Muschinskikh T-6in4 he.net OO

    T-6in4 Static 6in4
    T-AYIY Dynamic AYIYA
    T-6to4 6to4
    T-6RD 6RD

    Remarks:

    f Has a ::f1d0:<zone>:<net>:<node> style host address.
    (zone, net, node in decimal notation)
    IO Incoming only (Node can not make outgoing IPv6 calls)
    OO Outgoing only (Node can not accept incoming IPv6 calls).
    INO4 No IPv4 (Node can not accept incoming IPv4 calls).
    PO4 Prefers Out on 4 (Node can make outgoing IPv6 calls,
    but is configured to try IPv4 first)
    6DWN The IPv6 connectivity of this node is temporarely down.
    NO6 The node no longer presents an IPv6 address in the nodelist
    and will soon be removed from this list.
    HOLD The node is temporarely off-line. Mail may be routed.
    DOWN This node is Down for both IPv4 and IPv6 and will be
    removed from this list if the condition pertains.
    PM Prospective Member. The node has demonstrated IPv6
    capability but is not listed or does not advertise an
    IPv6 address in the Fidonet nodelist yet.

    PM *1 lounge.egontech.com

    Notes:

    To make an IPv6 connection to a node connected via 6to4 tunneling
    one may have to force the mailer into IPv6 (-6 option in binkd's
    node config for binkd up to 1.1a-96, -64 option for binkd 1.1a-97
    and up when compiled with AF_FORCE=1). If the destination address
    is a 6to4 tunnel address (2002::/16) many OSs default to IPv4 if
    an IPv4 address is present.


    Submitted on day 246

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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
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    JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST =================================================================

    The Johan Billing JamNNTPd project

    This is a list of known JamNNTPd servers working. They are essentially
    the modern version of Bulletin Board Systems.

    You connect to them using the newsreader of your choice and you don't
    need any other software installed on your computer -- regardless of
    operating system -- but that favourite mail client of yours.

    Even smart phones can handle this, giving you the opportunity to get
    your daily doses of fidonet on the bus, tram or train on the way to
    your job, school or whatever.


    Updated 2022-09-20


    URL news://eljaco.se:4119
    Join http://fidonews.eu
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:203/2

    URL nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi
    Join https://news.fidonet.fi
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/360

    URL nntp://fidonews.mine.nu
    URL nntps://fidonews.mine.nu
    Join http://fidonews.mine.nu
    NETMAIL Yes, 2:221/6

    URL nntp://news.bytemuseum.org
    nntps://news.bytemuseum.org (secure)
    Join Info in group +ACCCESS&SUPPORT+
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:19/10

    URL nntp://news.pharcyde.org
    Join Info in group, +GETACCESS+
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:154/10

    URL: news.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Join mailto:sysop@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:266/404

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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
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    FIDONEWS'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING =================================================================



    =================================================================
    FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
    =================================================================

    BBS Software List

    Updated 2023-06-22

    Maintained by Andrew Leary (1:320/219)
    Editors Emeritus: Robert Couture, Janis Kracht,
    Sean Dennis

    M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
    P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility #=Info
    F=TIC/SRIF Processor

    *=Software is available and may be registerable,
    but no longer supported or updated.

    @=Website is operating but is no longer updated.

    ?=Software's updating/support status is unknown.

    O=Software is open source.

    This list contains BBS-related software that is available
    for registration (not necessarily supported), open source
    software and actively developed/supported software by its
    author. Software listed may be available for DOS, Linux,
    OS/2 (eComStation), Windows (16 or 32 bit) and OSX.

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    |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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    ==> FRONT-END/INTERNET MAILERS

    Argus |MI*? |http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products
    | | /argus/
    | | v3.210 on 2001-03-29

    BinkleyTerm XE |MO* |http://btxe.sourceforge.net
    | | 2.60XE Beta-XH7 on 2000-10-22

    BinkD |MI? |http://binkd.grumbler.org
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua 2:463/68
    | | v.1.0.4
    | | v.1.1a-115 (alpha)
    | | ftp://cvs.happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft
    | | /mailer/binkd/
    | |http://www.filegate.net/r50/aftnbinkd/

    D'Bridge |MTCPE|http://www.dbridgemailer.com
    |I | support@dbridgemailer.com 1:1/130
    Nick Andre | | v4.00 on 2023-05-18

    FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.datenbahn.dd-dns.de/
    | | cdp/fp_deluxe/
    | | v2.4 on 2003-09-26

    FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MITPC|http://www.defsol.se
    Definite Solutions |E | sales@defsol.se
    | | FD v2.33ml, FD/APX v1.15

    InterMail |MCPE |http://www.Intermail.net 1:106/201
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IM v2.60 on 2017-08-28

    Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sourceforge.net/
    |EO? | v1.9 RC2 on 2010-04-20

    Taurus |MI |http://www.fidotel.com/public/forums/
    (based on Radius) |? | taurus/index.htm
    | | v5.0 on 2006-06-12
    | |

    T-Mail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru (Russian only)
    |? | v2608 on 2001-12-12

    AfterShock |MTEI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Asvcorp | | details?id=com.asvcorp.aftershock
    Anatoly Vdovichev | | rudi.timmermans@mailfence.com
    Rudi Timmermans | | v1.7.1 on 2022-11-30 2:292/140

    HotDogEd |E |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Sergey Pushkin | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged
    | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

    HotDogEd FidoNet |MTI |https://play.google.com/store/apps/
    Provider | | details?id=com.pushkin.hotdoged.fido
    Sergey Pushkin | | v2.13.5 on 2017-03-13 2:5020/2141

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    MAIL TOSSERS

    Crashmail II |TO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net/
    | | crashmail.html

    FastEcho |T |http://www.softeq.de/old/Products
    | | /FastEcho/fastecho.html
    | | v1.46.1 on 2007-11-13
    | | Registration keys are free & available
    | | by request from the author

    Fidogate |TUI? |http://www.fidogate.org
    | | v4.4.10 on 2004-08-27
    | |

    FMail |TO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/fmail/
    | | v2.2.0.0 on 2023-02-20 2:280/464

    InterEcho |T |http://www.Intermail.net 1:220/60
    Dale Barnes | | dalebarnes42@majik.net
    | | IE 1.20 on 2017-08-28

    JetMail: JetSys |TU |
    (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on 2000-01-01

    Squish |T* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v1.11R2 on 2009-01-01
    | | Source code available in Maximus BBS
    | | archive: http://maximus.sourceforge.net


    WWIVToss |T |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v1.51 on 2015-05-23

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    BBS SOFTWARE

    BBBS |BICTM|http://www.bbbs.net 2:222/2
    | | b@bbbs.net
    | | v4.01 on 2007-01-28

    EleBBS |BO*? |http://www.elebbs.com
    | | v0.10.RC1 on 2002-06-09

    Enthral BBS |B |http://enthralbbs.com
    Linux/BSD/OSX | | v0.429/Alpha on 2010-10-14
    | | Fidonet filebone SCENEENT

    Ezycom BBS |BT* |http://www.ezycom-bbs.com
    | | v2.15g2 on 2009-11-16

    GT Power |B |http://www.gtpowerbbs.com/
    | | v19.00

    Hermes II Project |BT |http://www.hermesbbs.com/
    Macintosh-based | | malyn@strangegizmo.com
    | | v3.5.10b3

    Maximus BBS |BO* |http://www.filegate.net/maximus_bbs/
    | | v3.03
    | | Source code available at:
    | | http://maximus.sourceforge.net/

    MBSE BBS |BMTFI|https://sourceforge.net 1:1/119
    |PO | /projects/mbsebbs
    | | ajleary@sourceforge.net
    | | v1.0.8.4 on 2023-04-20
    Meltdown BBS |UIO |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.0b on 2004-04-26

    Mystic BBS |BMTCE|http://www.mysticbbs.com
    |I | v1.12 A48 on 2023-01-15

    NiKom BBS (Amiga) |BO |http://www.nikom.org
    | | v2.3.1 on 2017-07-01

    RemoteAccess BBS |B? |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
    | | bfmorse@rapro.com
    | | v2.62.2SW on 2000-10-25

    Renegade BBS |B |http://renegadebbs.info 1:129/305
    | | v1.33/DOS on 2023-05-05

    Spitfire BBS |B? |http://www.buffalocrk.com/
    | | mdwoltz@buffalocrk.com
    | | v3.7 on 2010-01-01

    Synchronet BBS |BMTIO|http://www.synchro.net 1:103/705
    | | v3.19b on 2022-01-02

    Telegard BBS |B* |
    | | v3.09g2-sp4/mL on 1999-12-19

    WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
    Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
    Xpress: Santronics | |
    Software, Inc. | | v8.0 AUP 454.12 on 2021-05-14

    WWIV BBS |B |http://www.wwivbbs.org
    | | v5.6.1 on 2021-04-23

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    TIC PROCESSORS/FILEFIX/SRIF

    Allfix |FIUT |http://www.allfix.com/ 1:218/720
    Ken Johnson | | v6.1.0 on 2019-02-02

    NEF/pk |F |http://nefpk.8m.com/
    | | v2.45b2 on 2000-03-05

    TinyTIC |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /tinytic.html

    VIReq |FO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /vireq.html

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    BBS DOORS/UTILITIES

    Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net/cheepware.html
    Sean Dennis | | sysop@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    DDS (Doorware |D@ |http://www.doorgames.org
    Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
    Ruth Argust | |

    Jibben Software |D* |http://www.jibbensoftware.com/
    | | bbs-door-games.cfm
    | | scott@jibben.com
    | | 1995-99 Release dates

    John Dailey Software |DU |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com

    Shining Star |D* |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
    | | nannette@shiningstar.net
    | | Doors are registerable via website

    Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
    Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
    | | Tel: (404) 256-9518

    T1ny's Software |DU |http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/tsoft/
    Shawn Highfield | | shighfield@gmail.com 1:229/452
    | | Fidonet filebone CH-WARE

    The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
    | | stanley@brainex.com
    | | 1994-99 Releases

    Trade Wars |D* |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
    | | jpritch@eisonline.com
    | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002

    Vagabond Software |DU* |http://vbsoft.dhakota.org
    | | d@dhakota.org
    | | Last update: 2008-04-11

    WWIVEdit |DE |http://www.weather-station.org/wwiv/
    | | v3.0 on 2011-06-27

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    ==> POINT SOFTWARE

    APoint |PI |https://stargate.org.uk/apoint/
    | | v1.25 on 2001-12-12 (Win32)
    | | Needs the binkD Toolkit for Fido-over-IP
    | | which is available from the above URL.

    CrossPoint |P |http://www.crosspoint.de
    | | pm@crosspoint.de
    | | v3.12d on 1999-12-22 (DOS, Shareware)

    FreeXP |PO |http://www.freexp.de
    | | support@freexp.de
    | | v3.42 on 2020-09-25 (DOS)

    OpenXP |PIO |https://sourceforge.net/projects/openxp5/
    | |https://openxp.uk/
    | | dev@openxp.uk
    | | v5.0.51 on 2021-12-26
    | | (Win32, Linux(64-Bit})

    WinPoint |PI |http://www.winpoint.org/
    | | Tim Schattkowsky 2:240/1120.29
    | | v415.0 on 2023-02-17 (Win32)

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    SYSOP MAIL EDITORS

    GoldEd+ |EO |http://golded-plus.sourceforge.net/
    | | v1.1.5 (Snapshot) on 2023-02-14
    | | NOTE: Unstable versions released often

    SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de 2:2476/493
    | | v1.15 on 1999-12-15
    | | Website is in German and English

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    INTERNET UTILITIES

    Ifmail |UIO |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
    | | crosser@average.org

    Internet Rex |UI? |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
    | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
    | | v2.29 on 2001-10-21

    JamNNTPd |UIO |http://ftnapps.sourceforge.net
    | | /jamnntpd.html

    Luckygate |UO | ftp://happy.kiev.ua/pub/fidosoft/gate
    | | /lgate
    | | gul@gul.kiev.ua

    MakeNL |UO |http://makenl.sourceforge.net
    | | v3.5.0 on 2019-05-06

    RNtrack |U |http://sourceforge.net/projects
    | | /ftrack-as 2:5080/102
    | |stas_degteff@users.sourceforge.net
    | | v2.1.10 on 2020-04-30

    TransNet |UIO? |http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/
    | | transnet/index.html
    | | transnet@ressl.com.ar
    | | v2.11 on 2007-09-13

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    INFORMATIONAL WEBSITES/BBS LISTS

    Telnet/Dialup BBS |# |http://www.telnetbbsguide.com 1:275/89
    Guide | | Maintained by Dave Perrussel
    | | This is probably the most updated BBS
    | | list on the Internet for a general
    | | BBS list.

    Synchronet BBS List |# |http://www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html
    | | Maintained automatically
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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
    http://www.simtel.net
    http://www.bbsfiles.com
    http://hobbes.nmsu.edu (OS/2 specific)
    http://www.filegate.net/ (FTP access via port 60721)
    http://www.tinysbbs.com/files/

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  • From FidoNews Robot@2:2/2 to All on Mon Sep 4 03:40:39 2023
    =================================================================
    SPECIAL INTEREST =================================================================

    Last week's statistics from the Fidoweb
    By EchoTime @ 2:203/0

    (Some nets may have lost their last
    digit for technical reasons)

    pkt (toss-toss) msg (write-toss)
    nodes mean dev no mean dev no

    201/* 1.7m 0.1m 2 0.0h 0.0h 2
    221/* 1.0m 1.7m 550 5.8h 14.7h 554
    280/* 0.7m 0.4m 715 3.9h 4.9h 715
    292/* 2.7m 2.0m 9 1.0h 2.1h 8
    320/* 2.0m 1.1m 247 3.4h 15.3h 247

    Sigma 1.0m 1.3m 1523 4.5h 11.3h 1526

    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Nodelist Stats

    Input nodelist nodelist.244
    size 165.2kb
    date 2023-09-01

    The nodelist has 904 nodes in it
    and a total of 1304 non-comment entries

    including 4 zones
    32 regions
    166 hosts
    60 hubs
    admin overhead 262 ( 28.98 %)

    and 93 private nodes
    26 nodes down
    19 nodes on hold
    off line overhead 138 ( 15.27 %)


    Speed summary:

    >9600 = 24 ( 2.65 %)
    9600 = 155 ( 17.15 %)
    (HST = 3 or 1.94 %)
    (CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (PEP = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (HAY = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (V32 = 70 or 45.16 %)
    (V32B = 0 or 0.00 %)
    (V34 = 66 or 42.58 %)
    (V42 = 63 or 40.65 %)
    (V42B = 0 or 0.00 %)
    2400 = 1 ( 0.11 %)
    1200 = 0 ( 0.00 %)
    300 = 724 ( 80.09 %)

    ISDN = 21 ( 2.32 %)

    -----------------------------------------------------
    IP Flags Protocol Number of systems -----------------------------------------------------
    IBN Binkp 767 ( 84.85 %) ----------------------------------
    IFC Raw ifcico 75 ( 8.30 %) ----------------------------------
    IFT FTP 57 ( 6.31 %) ----------------------------------
    ITN Telnet 140 ( 15.49 %) ----------------------------------
    IVM Vmodem 15 ( 1.66 %) ----------------------------------
    IP Other 1 ( 0.11 %) ----------------------------------
    INO4 IPv6 only 5 ( 0.55 %) ----------------------------------

    CrashMail capable = 824 ( 91.15 %)
    MailOnly nodes = 262 ( 28.98 %)
    Listed-only nodes = 18 ( 1.99 %)



    [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
    [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/2]
    [ NetStats 3.8 2014-11-23]

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to FidoNews Robot on Mon Sep 4 07:39:00 2023
    FidoNews Robot wrote to All <=-

    =================================================================
    JAMNNTPD SERVERS LIST =================================================================

    This is a list of known JamNNTPd servers working. They are
    essentially the modern version of Bulletin Board Systems.

    <SNIP>

    URL: news.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Join mailto:sysop@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:266/404

    This is not a valid FidoNet node, and hasn't been for more than a year.


    ... So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Dan Clough on Mon Sep 4 21:55:04 2023
    Dan,

    URL: news.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Join mailto:sysop@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:266/404

    This is not a valid FidoNet node, and hasn't been for more than a year.

    Correct ... however "for about just slightly over a year" would be less insinuating.

    Now that we're talking, are you interested in a list of dozens and dozens of dead nodes in the nodelist, some of them being *Cs up to the level of RC ?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Ward Dossche on Mon Sep 4 16:07:00 2023
    Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    URL: news.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Join mailto:sysop@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    NETMAIL Yes, 1:266/404

    This is not a valid FidoNet node, and hasn't been for more than a year.

    Correct ... however "for about just slightly over a year" would
    be less insinuating.

    Maybe. Does it change the fact that it should have been updated by the illustrious Snooze editor many months ago?

    Now that we're talking, are you interested in a list of dozens
    and dozens of dead nodes in the nodelist, some of them being *Cs
    up to the level of RC ?

    No. I'm already aware of that, and I can't do anything to fix that.
    Seems like a ZC/IC could, though. Yup.



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Dan Clough on Tue Sep 5 10:43:40 2023
    Hey Dan,

    Maybe. Does it change the fact that it should have been updated by the illustrious Snooze editor many months ago?

    No, it does not. It should have been updated and probably it will. I think the problem lies in the fact that whenever a person closes the door behind him/her very little attention is given to inform those that stay behid to pick-up the thread or wind a particular activity down.

    Now that we're talking, are you interested in a list of dozens
    and dozens of dead nodes in the nodelist, some of them being *Cs
    up to the level of RC ?

    No. I'm already aware of that, and I can't do anything to fix that.
    Seems like a ZC/IC could, though. Yup.

    Correct again ... maybe I need to post a list of all the dead nodes ... rude awakening ... also my zone BTW...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Ward Dossche on Tue Sep 5 07:39:00 2023
    Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Maybe. Does it change the fact that it should have been updated by the illustrious Snooze editor many months ago?

    No, it does not. It should have been updated and probably it
    will. I think the problem lies in the fact that whenever a person
    closes the door behind him/her very little attention is given to
    inform those that stay behid to pick-up the thread or wind a
    particular activity down.

    Fair enough, and agreed.

    Now that we're talking, are you interested in a list of dozens
    and dozens of dead nodes in the nodelist, some of them being *Cs
    up to the level of RC ?

    No. I'm already aware of that, and I can't do anything to fix that.
    Seems like a ZC/IC could, though. Yup.

    Correct again ... maybe I need to post a list of all the dead
    nodes ... rude awakening ... also my zone BTW...

    I think that would be a great idea.

    Oh, and thank you for being civil, and not talking in circles.


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  • From Conrad Candy Smith@1:229/317 to Ward Dossche on Tue Sep 5 09:17:14 2023
    Correct again ... maybe I need to post a list of all the dead nodes ... rude awakening ... also my zone BTW...

    You could try pinging the list occasionally and making a notice if it doesn't respond?

    -----------------------------------
    user is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Conrad Candy Smith on Tue Sep 5 23:36:28 2023
    Correct again ... maybe I need to post a list of all the dead nodes
    ...
    rude awakening ... also my zone BTW...

    You could try pinging the list occasionally and making a notice if it doesn't respond?

    I will react the way my good friend Nick Andre would want me to react ... no-one's paying me a salary and what you're asking is a pretty big job, even with a reduced nodelist these days.

    To give you an idea ...

    R14 has 25 entries in the region-segment but only 3 can be reached. 1:14/0 is not one of them.

    R15 has 71 entries in its region-segment a multitude of which are equally unreachable fro; this location.

    This can have sevaral reasons:

    * Nodelist errors, for example not putting a non-standard port after the
    domain but as "IBN:24555". That cannot be parsed by known software
    * Invalid domain name
    * Expired domain name
    * Bad binkd-configuration
    * Blocking inbound calls
    * ...

    I had a check ran as you suggested and I'm getting 217 entries with connection issues but the 'nodelist police' think I'm way too severe so I will be looking into this again at a later moment.

    Take care,

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Dan Clough on Tue Sep 5 23:43:46 2023
    Dan,

    I think that would be a great idea.

    Oh no, please ... way too much work ... trimming trees, mowing grass, household, take trash to recycling center, shop for food, cook, dishes, pay taxes (yea, we've got the buggers too), take care of grand-kids ... I even don't get to go to my sailboat at the coast ...

    Oh, and thank you for being civil, and not talking in circles.

    Well, you provoked me into that by being cooperative yourself.... don't start complaining now ... 8-)

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Atreyu@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Tue Sep 5 18:30:13 2023
    On 05 Sep 23 23:43:46, Ward Dossche said the following to Dan Clough:

    Well, you provoked me into that by being cooperative yourself.... don't sta complaining now ... 8-)

    I much prefer hearing stories of shitting in boxes on sailboats...

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Atreyu@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Tue Sep 5 19:00:12 2023
    On 05 Sep 23 23:36:28, Ward Dossche said the following to Conrad Candy Smith:

    I will react the way my good friend Nick Andre would want me to react ... no-one's paying me a salary and what you're asking is a pretty big job, eve with a reduced nodelist these days.

    True... The nodelist isn't that big and neither is the D'Bridge code.

    I've written many fixes for that on my own time... because I was asked politely, not because some morons created a police-echo when I refused to
    march to the suspender-snapping cadence.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wed Sep 6 02:06:59 2023
    Maybe. Does it change the fact that it should have been updated by the illustrious Snooze editor many months ago?

    Checking the entries in what basically means an ad for peoples BBSs isn't in the Editors job description.

    But thanks for pointing the error out, albeit you could have made it in netmail, now that the sysop himself didn't care about it.


    --
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    ..

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Tue Sep 5 20:44:00 2023
    Bjrn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Maybe. Does it change the fact that it should have been updated by the illustrious Snooze editor many months ago?

    Checking the entries in what basically means an ad for peoples
    BBSs isn't in the Editors job description.

    Curious. Seems like the Editor-in-Chief would/should be responsible for
    all content of the publication. That's generally true for most any other periodical I can think of. Who else would/could do it?

    But thanks for pointing the error out, albeit you could have
    made it in netmail, now that the sysop himself didn't care about
    it.

    I have a vague memory, not completely sure of though; that the sysop in question has passed away...


    ... The Fourth Law of Computing: on a slow day, you can wait forever.
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wed Sep 6 06:54:10 2023
    Curious. Seems like the Editor-in-Chief would/should be responsible for all content of the publication. That's generally true for most any other periodical I can think of. Who else would/could do it?

    Well, what salary do those Editors that you think of have?

    Who else? For a non-profit community driven publication, it's usually the community that's responsible for it's content.


    --
    People who think that democratic elections are all about picking the right winner, are in dire need of re-education.

    ..

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Wed Sep 6 07:29:00 2023
    Bjrn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Curious. Seems like the Editor-in-Chief would/should be responsible for all content of the publication. That's generally true for most any other periodical I can think of. Who else would/could do it?

    Well, what salary do those Editors that you think of have?

    Significant salary, I'm sure. Not really relevant, though, as your
    position is voluntary and you knew there was no salary when you took on
    the job. Are you now saying you don't want to do the Editor's job
    unless you are paid?

    Who else? For a non-profit community driven publication, it's
    usually the community that's responsible for it's content.

    Sure, the content when it comes to "news" articles and so on is. But
    the material under discussion here is "static" stuff that simply gets copy/pasted into each edition. It rarely changes, but sometimes does.
    So in this case, the community, namely *ME*, noticed an error and
    brought it to the attention of the designated Editor. I cannot
    delete/alter any content myself, so wouldn't it make sense that the
    Editor would do it after being informed of a change? It would seem that
    all has worked as expected, at least to this point. Correct?


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thu Sep 7 16:10:11 2023
    Hello Bjrn,

    Curious. Seems like the Editor-in-Chief would/should be responsible
    for
    all content of the publication. That's generally true for most any
    other
    periodical I can think of. Who else would/could do it?

    Well, what salary do those Editors that you think of have?

    Who else? For a non-profit community driven publication, it's usually the community that's responsible for it's content.

    Dan is absolutely correct. And I mean absolutely. In fact, Dan has
    come up with the perfect solution, as noted in his own words -

    I cannot delete/alter any content myself, so wouldn't it make sense
    that the Editor would do it after being informed of a change? It
    would seem that all has worked as expected, at least to this point.
    Correct?

    Dan has spotted the problem, and offered a solution to fix it.
    After all, this is a non-profit community driven publication.
    And Dan is a full-fledged member of that non-profit community
    driven publication. And he really did make you an offer. An
    offer you really cannot refuse.

    So. It is all up to you now. Are you going to let him do it?
    I mean, he did offer to fix it. All by himself. At no cost to
    anybody else. So whataya say? He just made you an offer you
    cannot refuse and you gonna tell him no? Let him do it! Let
    him do it! You'll never forget it. Trust me, you'll never
    forget it. Or believe another word I ever say.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Sep 10 23:33:52 2023
    Dan has spotted the problem, and offered a solution to fix it.
    After all, this is a non-profit community driven publication.
    And Dan is a full-fledged member of that non-profit community
    driven publication. And he really did make you an offer. An
    offer you really cannot refuse.

    There's no need to patronize the guy.

    Yes, it's nice that he finally understood what most of us have known for decades, and maybe even a few more now understand the concept.

    Of course the Editor will listen to what the community has to say. DUH!


    --
    People who think that democratic elections are all about picking the right winner, are in dire need of re-education.

    ..

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