• FD + SIO 1.60d

    From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to All on Thu Sep 19 19:30:02 2024
    Hey Guys!

    What is the correct format for the FDNODE.CTL dial translation of internet to port 60177?

    This is a very simple configuration to my boss node. Phone 2:xx/xx IFC129.168.21.3

    DIAL
    IFC Internet/:60177
    END

    SIO 1.60d errors "Authoritative host not found received" due to the :60177

    Problem is if I remove the colon to Internet/60177 or Internet/ 60177. these dont work either...

    Any successful hacks??



    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Phillip Kimble on Thu Sep 19 17:28:26 2024
    DIAL
    IFC Internet/:60177
    END


    Try this ....




    ;PHONE 1:379/1 #fidonet.no-ip.org[60177]
    ;PHONE 1:379/1 #fidonet.no-ip.org:23
    PHONE 1:229/426 #darkrealms.ca:23
    PHONE 1:129/305 #ttb.rgbbs.info:23
    PHONE 1:342/19 #stateoftheark.ca:1990

    DIAL
    1-724-
    # Internet ;IP translate numbers starting with '#'
    0000- Internet/:155 ;IP translate numbers starting with 0000-
    V Internet# ;IP translate numbers starting with 'V'
    END

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Sep 20 04:39:17 2024
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Phillip Kimble:
    Try this ....
    ;PHONE 1:379/1 #fidonet.no-ip.org[60177]
    ;PHONE 1:379/1 #fidonet.no-ip.org:23

    Thank you for the fast assist, but still no love. Using FD Terminal, the only way it appears to be working is with a space between the ip address & the destination port. For example:

    Using FDTerminal: atdt 192.168.1.1 60177 works
    atdt 192.168.1.1:60177 does not work

    Phone 2:xxx/xxx 192.168.1.1 60177 - The problem with this is FD doesnt send over the destination port to vmodem! So vmodem connects to the default port of 23.

    Anything else (using : or [] ) is presented directly to vmodem, not translated,
    which vmodem (v 1.21) responds with a "Authoritative host not found received" NO DIAL TONE.

    While I am beginning to conclude this is more of an issue with SIO/VModem not FD, I know this has been solved in the past but cant sem to find the magic answer...



    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Phillip Kimble on Fri Sep 20 06:15:52 2024
    ;PHONE 1:379/1 #fidonet.no-ip.org:23

    Did you try putting a V instead of # on these? These we set for NetSerial, been years since I had my fdnode.ctl for vmodem.

    ... Shouldn't you be doing something productive?

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Sep 20 15:13:55 2024
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Phillip Kimble:
    Did you try putting a V instead of # on these? These we set for NetSerial,
    been years since I had my fdnode.ctl for vmodem.

    Is there a diffrence between the # and the V ?


    ... Shouldn't you be doing something productive?
    Hey, I got my 80 hours this week!



    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Sep 20 15:25:52 2024
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Phillip Kimble:

    Did you try putting a V instead of # on these? These we set for NetSerial,
    been years since I had my fdnode.ctl for vmodem.
    I changed the # to a V and it doesnt seem to have any effect.

    Frontdoor drops the destination port if there is a space between the IPaddr & the port number. vmodem chokes if there is a colon ':' as a seperator.

    It doesnt appear to be a solution... at least unknown to me anyway.

    Will NetSerial run on Arca Noae? I assumed it wouldnt but that would fix the problem!

    COAs:
    1. Install ifcico on the primary BBS
    2. Install binkd/2 on the point bbs

    Hmmm... challenges lead to opportunities.


    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Phillip Kimble on Fri Sep 20 16:04:35 2024
    Is there a diffrence between the # and the V ?

    Using Vmodem under OS/2 (ie: the V), or using something else like NetSerial under windows (the #)

    ... Idiot (id-ee-it) n.-> One who disagrees with me.

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Phillip Kimble on Fri Sep 20 16:05:06 2024
    Will NetSerial run on Arca Noae? I assumed it wouldnt but that would fix t

    Windows only.

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to T.J. Mcmillen on Fri Sep 20 22:04:29 2024
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Phillip Kimble:
    Is there a diffrence between the # and the V ?

    Using Vmodem under OS/2 (ie: the V), or using something else like NetSerial
    under windows (the #)

    I didnt se any difference between the two, '#' vs 'V'. Bpoth had the same results.

    However, reading through something, the author referred to NetSerial as "Playing with Ports" giving me the Layer 3 solution of just change the freaking
    ports! Becuase the primary BBS is in a firewalld dmz, I set the ITN back to the default, configured the port forwarding for external users (should there be
    any), and internally connect on port 23.

    While this doesnt resolve the question of FD + SIO 1.60d, it fixes my headache & a 30 year old problem! I will keep playing with it to see if there is a way to do it, but for now the packets are flowing!

    Thank you for the help. I saw you scratching your head but I
    commend you on an outstanding display of gentlemanly patince!



    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Phillip Kimble on Fri Sep 20 21:18:40 2024
    While this doesnt resolve the question of FD + SIO 1.60d, it fixes my head & a 30 year old problem! I will keep playing with it to see if there is a to do it, but for now the packets are flowing!

    Was thinking ... doesn't SIO only allow defaulting to port 23?

    ... Really honey, I NEED 10 megawatts for it.

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Phillip Kimble on Sat Sep 21 08:00:52 2024

    19 Sep 24 19:30, Phillip Kimble wrote to All:

    Hey Guys!

    What is the correct format for the FDNODE.CTL dial translation of
    internet to port 60177?

    There is a bit complex way to poll nonstandard port. I did it once by setting an env var:

    set fd_joho=fhc.d.defsol.com 2030

    And then in fdnode.ctl:

    phone 2:20/4609 $[fd_joho]

    DIAL
    IFC Internet/:60177
    END

    Please do remember that FD does not support IFC. With SIO you can make ITN and VMP only.

    Feel free to try my node at port 32 / ITN. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Phillip Kimble on Sat Sep 21 08:15:56 2024

    21 Sep 24 08:00, Tommi Koivula wrote to Phillip Kimble:

    ITN and VMP only.

    ===

    IVM, of course. ;)

    'Tommi

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sat Sep 21 05:44:18 2024
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Phillip Kimble:
    to do it, but for now the packets are flowing!

    Was thinking ... doesn't SIO only allow defaulting to port 23?

    Yes, it defaults to port 23 outbound but it will call out using other destination ports. SIO 1.60d chokes on the ':' seperator between the IPAddr & destination port. BUT, I finally figured it out. If I define the IPAddr port as a macro, inside the runfd1.cmd it works. If I define inside the FDNode.ctl it
    fails.
    What works is:
    RUNFD1.FD
    set Boss=V192.168.1.1 60177

    FDNODE.CTL
    PHONE 2:xxx/xxx $[Boss]

    What doesnt work is:
    FDNODE.CTL
    PHONE 2:xxx/xxx V192.268.1.1 60177

    I cant explain it but this is what I tried this morning & its working!




    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to Tommi Koivula on Sat Sep 21 16:53:14 2024
    Tommi Koivula wrote to Phillip Kimble:
    There is a bit complex way to poll nonstandard port. I did it once by setting an env var:

    set fd_joho=fhc.d.defsol.com 2030

    And then in fdnode.ctl:

    phone 2:20/4609 $[fd_joho
    This is what worked for me too, finally...

    Please do remember that FD does not support IFC. With SIO you can make ITN and VMP only
    I had to change the listening port on the primary bbs but have it working now.

    Feel free to try my node at port 32 / ITN. :)
    I will certainly do this!

    'Tommi
    Thanks Tommi!



    Ciao!
    phiL

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  • From Phillip Kimble@2:333/801 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Sep 24 19:13:02 2024
    Tommi Koivula wrote to Phillip Kimble:

    21 Sep 24 08:00, Tommi Koivula wrote to Phillip Kimble:

    ITN and VMP only.

    Hi Tommi!
    YOu are so right. I was had receonfigured mbse tpo accept ITN connections of port 23 & testing to port 60177 to figure out the alternate port
    configuration.

    I have since reconfigure to the port ITN:60179...




    Ciao!
    phiL

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