• Strange a bit

    From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Ardith Hinton on Sun Nov 24 20:11:37 2024
    Re: Strange a bit
    By: Ardith Hinton to Alexander Koryagin on Tue Oct 08 2024 18:36:08

    I can consult a modern English/English dictionary...

    An English/ENGLISH dictionary?

    I can check the card catalogue at the public library.

    Those still exist?
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  • From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Alexander Koryagin on Sun Nov 24 20:49:52 2024
    Re: Strange a bit
    By: Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton on Thu Oct 10 2024 14:10:10

    It remains to me only to wonder about the English language evolution.

    If social media's any indication, I'd say it's more like devolving. What's really weird is reading posts from programmers--a skill where precision is essential--who seem unable to write a sentence without committing spelling, punctuation or other grammatical error, often all at once.
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  • From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Alexander Koryagin on Sun Nov 24 21:20:03 2024
    Re: Strange a bit
    By: Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton on Mon Oct 21 2024 10:52:38

    I wonder when in the USA they simplified English they could do the same.
    Heh, just hang out on social media, you'll see a lot of that.
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  • From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Sun Nov 24 21:24:44 2024
    Re: Strange a bit
    By: Mike Powell to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN on Mon Oct 21 2024 09:11:00

    No, I don't think so. Bear refers to both males and females. I am not
    sure what, if any, the gender specific nouns for bear are.

    Google is your friend. Male bears are called "boars", while females are called "sows". Baby bears, regardless of gender, are "cubs".
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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Mortar M. on Mon Nov 25 11:08:56 2024

    Hi, Mortar M.!
    I read your message from 25.11.2024 03:49

    It remains to me only to wonder about the English language
    evolution.

    Ouch - I've never seen this AH answer.

    If social media's any indication, I'd say it's more like
    devolving. What's really weird is reading posts from
    programmers--a skill where precision is essential--who seem
    unable to write a sentence without committing spelling,
    punctuation or other grammatical error, often all at once.


    I still often forget to put ";" typing my C++ texts. Thanks to the compiler which checks it. ;-)

    Bye, Mortar!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2024

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MORTAR M. on Mon Nov 25 10:22:00 2024
    No, I don't think so. Bear refers to both males and females. I am not sure what, if any, the gender specific nouns for bear are.

    Google is your friend. Male bears are called "boars", while females are
    alled
    "sows". Baby bears, regardless of gender, are "cubs".

    That might be. Around here, I don't think those terms are used. Reporters
    and others usually just say "male" or "female" when talking about bears.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MORTAR M. on Mon Nov 25 10:40:00 2024
    If social media's any indication, I'd say it's more like devolving. What's really weird is reading posts from programmers--a skill where precision is essential--who seem unable to write a sentence without committing spelling, punctuation or other grammatical error, often all at once.

    As someone else pointed out, compilers catch a lot of their goofs for them.

    Unless they are a COBOL programmer, most languages don't look much
    like English. Having worked for years as a programmer (COBOL) in a shop
    where we had multiple programming languages in use, I am not at all shocked that programmers have such issues when it comes to expressing themselves in writing.

    Mike


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  • From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Thu Nov 28 20:27:23 2024
    Re: Strange a bit
    By: Mike Powell to MORTAR M. on Mon Nov 25 2024 10:40:00

    As someone else pointed out, compilers catch a lot of their goofs for them.

    And your both missing the point. Consider the context of the msg. as a whole and you might gleam what I'm saying.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MORTAR M. on Sat Nov 30 12:07:00 2024
    As someone else pointed out, compilers catch a lot of their goofs for them.

    And your both missing the point. Consider the context of the msg. as a whole and you might gleam what I'm saying.

    Unless you were being sarcastic, I am not missing the point. Many
    programmers I know, especially once that never learned COBOL, really have issues with written communication.

    Their reading skills are sometimes awful, too. I cannot count the number
    of times I would email something to a developer only to have them show up
    at my desk where I would repeat (often word for word) what was in the email
    so that they could understand it.

    Unless your original post was in sarcasm, I don't agree with it.

    As an aside, I will say there are many programmers who participate in the
    BBS networks that don't seem to have as much of a problem with writing and reading. I have never worked alongside any of the programmers I have
    conversed with on BBSes. For whatever reason, many I meet in real life are lacking in both.


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  • From Gleb Hlebov@2:5023/24.4222 to All on Fri Nov 29 13:35:57 2024
    Hi Mortar,

    25.11.2024 1:24:44, Mortar M. wrote:

    Male bears are called "boars", while females are called "sows"

    You just happened to make too many typos in the word "pigs". Wow!
    :-)

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  • From Gleb Hlebov@2:5023/24.4222 to All on Fri Nov 29 13:36:27 2024
    Hi Mortar,

    25.11.2024 1:24:44, Mortar M. wrote:

    Male bears are called "boars", while females are called "sows"

    You just happened to make too many typos in the word "pigs". Wow!
    :-)

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Mortar M. on Wed Dec 18 16:56:47 2024
    Hi & welcome, Mortar! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:

    I can consult a modern English/English dictionary...

    An English/ENGLISH dictionary?

    I guess this term is rather unconventional, but because we have a lot of readers here who are not native speakers of English I use it to distinguish between e.g. my "Webster's Dictionary" & the bilingual dictionaries others may prefer if they're not quite ready to make use of such resources.... :-)


    I can check the card catalogue at the public library.

    Those still exist?

    While "catalogue" alone makes more sense, old habits die hard. :-))




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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Alexander Koryagin on Sat Dec 21 23:52:17 2024
    Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Mortar M.:

    It remains to me only to wonder about the English
    language evolution.

    Ouch - I've never seen this AH answer.

    Probably because I didn't write it. You wrote it in a message to me dated Oct. 10th, and the double >> usually means somebody is requoting.... :-)




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