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    From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Ardith Hinton on Mon Jul 8 13:26:52 2024

    Hi, Ardith Hinton!
    I read your message from 03.07.2024 01:46


    -----Beginning of the citation-----
    Why do French people eat snails?
    They don't like fast food.
    ----- The end of the citation -----

    This is an example of what I would call a "riddle", i.e. a puzzling
    or misleading question which when used as a joke often involves a
    play on words.

    Another example: Q. What do you call an angry carrot? A. A steamed vegetable.

    A Collection of Intermediate Anecdotes in American English

    Hmm. While my American dictionaries seem to agree that an anecdote
    is a story which other people may find entertaining &/or amusing,
    many of them also take into account that (as Anton said, and as a
    Canadian I agree) that as far as we're concerned such stories are typically autobiographical or at least reported by a person who if
    not on the scene at the time has done their homework.... :-)

    So, what is your variant? Jokes?

    BTW Webster is not very categorical on the issue:
    -----Beginning of the citation-----
    Anecdote: a usually short narrative of an interesting, amusing, or biographical incident
    ----- The end of the citation -----


    Bye, Ardith!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2024

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Alexander Koryagin on Fri Aug 23 18:20:00 2024
    Alexander Koryagin:

    An English joke -- "Englishmen are the most coward
    people. If they ask something they always say 'I am
    afraid'". ;-)

    `cowardly'.

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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Anton Shepelev on Sat Aug 24 17:34:48 2024

    Hi, Anton Shepelev!
    I read your message from 23.08.2024 15:20

    An English joke -- "Englishmen are the most coward
    people. If they ask something they always say 'I am
    afraid'". ;-)

    `cowardly'.

    You mean that there is no adjective "coward"?

    Here for instance,
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coward

    PS: And in general, it is an English feature that almost every word can perform every part of speech.

    Bye, Anton!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2024

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  • From Dallas Hinton@1:153/7715 to Alexander Koryagin on Sat Aug 24 12:44:23 2024
    Hi, Alexander -- on Aug 24 2024 at 17:34, you wrote:


    You mean that there is no adjective "coward"?

    Here for instance,
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coward

    PS: And in general, it is an English feature that almost every word
    can perform every part of speech.

    I've never seen the word used as an adjective. I suspect it's an archaic usage. The Cambridge dictionary doesn't define it as an adjective (listing only "cowardly"), same for Merriam-Webster, Collins, and the Britannica Dictionary. The Oxford dictionary shows it used an adjective but last used in 1818!


    Cheers... Dallas

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  • From Alexander Koryagin@2:221/6 to Dallas Hinton on Mon Aug 26 09:11:42 2024

    Hi, Dallas Hinton!
    I read your message from 24.08.2024 15:44

    You mean that there is no adjective "coward"?

    Here for instance,
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coward

    PS: And in general, it is an English feature that almost every
    word can perform every part of speech.

    I've never seen the word used as an adjective. I suspect it's an
    archaic usage. The Cambridge dictionary doesn't define it as an
    adjective (listing only "cowardly"), same for Merriam-Webster,
    Collins, and the Britannica Dictionary. The Oxford dictionary shows
    it used an adjective but last used in 1818!

    Coward is a noun. Amen! ;-) https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/coward-vs-cowardly

    Bye, Dallas!
    Alexander Koryagin
    english_tutor 2024

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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Dallas Hinton on Fri Aug 30 11:51:12 2024
    Dallas Hinton about `coward':

    I've never seen the word used as an adjective. I suspect
    it's an archaic usage. The Cambridge dictionary doesn't
    define it as an adjective (listing only "cowardly"),
    same for Merriam-Webster, Collins, and the Britannica
    Dictionary. The Oxford dictionary shows it used an
    adjective but last used in 1818!

    1913 Webster lists `coward' as an adjective:

    <http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=coward>

    So I was too blunt.

    I think `coward' /can/ be an adjective by virtue of the
    ability of nouns in English to become adjectives in certain
    cirsumstances, such as:

    systems (vs. systematic) programming
    fall guy
    finger man
    glass (not glassy) jar.

    That said, `coward' is no more an ajective than `widow' in
    the famous tautology `widow woman'.

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  • From Gleb Hlebov@2:5030/1081.143 to Anton Shepelev on Sat Aug 31 13:14:52 2024
    Hi Anton,

    Fri 30 Aug 2024, 11:51, you -> Dallas Hinton:

    That said, `coward' is no more an ajective than `widow' in
    the famous tautology `widow woman'.

    I've been wondering why do you always put a grave accent sign in place of the apostrophy (which is in turn supposed to signify a single quotation mark) -- any technical reasons to that? Some fonts (such as mine) display those characters as distinctly different --

    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/40g98jf43_hx8dij7l.png


    ... End of message, Anton. Confused? Me too! :-)
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  • From Anton Shepelev@2:221/6 to Gleb Hlebov on Sat Aug 31 20:58:54 2024
    Gleb Hlebov to Anton Shepelev:

    That said, `coward' is no more an ajective than `widow'
    in the famous tautology `widow woman'.

    I've been wondering why do you always put a grave accent
    sign in place of the apostrophy (which is in turn
    supposed to signify a single quotation mark) -- any
    technical reasons to that?


    Yes, it is the standard ASCII emulation of the opening
    single qutation mark.

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  • From Ardith Hinton@1:153/716 to Anton Shepelev on Thu Sep 26 22:00:53 2024
    Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to Dallas Hinton:

    I've never seen the word used as an adjective. I suspect
    it's an archaic usage. The Cambridge dictionary doesn't
    define it as an adjective (listing only "cowardly"),
    same for Merriam-Webster, Collins, and the Britannica
    Dictionary. The Oxford dictionary shows it used an
    adjective but last used in 1818!

    1913 Webster lists `coward' as an adjective:

    <http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=coward>


    My 1983 GAGE CANADIAN DICTIONARY also lists it as an adjective, but in my experience this usage was rare at the time of publication.... :-)



    I think `coward' /can/ be an adjective by virtue of the
    ability of nouns in English to become adjectives in certain
    cirsumstances, such as:

    systems (vs. systematic) programming
    fall guy
    finger man
    glass (not glassy) jar.


    or

    gravel road
    pine cone
    sob sister
    spider vein

    ... AKA noun adjectives or attributive nouns. :-)



    that said, `coward' is no more an ajective than `widow' in
    the famous tautology `widow woman'.

    I ran across "widow woman" as an example of tautology as well. But in this case "woman" is redundant because a widow is by definition female, and if a male finds himself in a similar position he is a widower where I come from. :-)




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