• Re: End of an Era

    From Captain Nemo@3:770/3 to Eric Hill on Sat Dec 16 22:42:21 2023
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:41:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Hill wrote:

    At the top of the screen for Google Groups:

    "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new
    Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new
    content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today."

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts
    and content outside of Google Groups?

    I mostly get this stuff either through a connected BBS or through
    Giganews.

    So Google dropping Usenet posting won't impact me one bit.

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  • From Anssi Saari@3:770/3 to Eric Hill on Sun Dec 17 12:31:34 2023
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a decade
    now.

    I guess Google's change means I can clean up the recently added scoring
    rules for Google Groups posters.

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  • From Nigel Reed@3:770/3 to Captain Nemo on Mon Dec 18 00:26:36 2023
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:42:21 +0000
    Captain Nemo <nemo@nowhere.org> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:41:46 -0800 (PST), Eric Hill wrote:

    At the top of the screen for Google Groups:

    "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
    new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and
    new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and
    searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done
    today."

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's
    posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    I mostly get this stuff either through a connected BBS or through
    Giganews.

    So Google dropping Usenet posting won't impact me one bit.

    You'd be surprised how many it does, mainly news admins who have to go
    cleaning up their mess. It's going to affect legitimate users,
    unfortuantely.

    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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  • From Kalevi Kolttonen@3:770/3 to DrSkinner on Mon Dec 18 18:02:36 2023
    DrSkinner <shamus.gregor@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-17 05:31, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a decade
    now.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I registered on Eternal September and
    pointed Thunderbird at it.

    There are much better newsfroup clients, but they require payment...

    I have been using tin, a basic newsreader, for over 29 years now.
    It all started on Digital UNIX back in the autumn of 1994.

    Tin's UI is based on (n)curses and it is simple and effective to use.
    Another somewhat similar but probably more advanced newsreader is
    slrn.

    No payment required for tin or slrn.

    br,
    KK

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to DrSkinner on Mon Dec 18 21:06:37 2023
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:04:42 -0500, DrSkinner wrote:

    On 2023-12-17 05:31, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts and content outside of Google Groups?
    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a
    decade
    now.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I registered on Eternal September and
    pointed Thunderbird at it.

    There are much better newsfroup clients, but they require payment...I
    have no problem paying for software but the 2-3 messages a month that
    still trickle in from comp.sys.cbm aren't worth the expense. :)

    From a technical point of view Thunderbird produces proper articles.

    But I don't really like its GUI anymore. Using something else here. :-)
    --
    Andreas

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  • From Keith@3:770/3 to DrSkinner on Tue Dec 19 05:00:07 2023
    On 2023-12-18, DrSkinner <shamus.gregor@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-17 05:31, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a decade
    now.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I registered on Eternal September and
    pointed Thunderbird at it.

    There are much better newsfroup clients, but they require payment...I
    have no problem paying for software but the 2-3 messages a month that
    still trickle in from comp.sys.cbm aren't worth the expense. :)

    ms



    You can use Free Agent from Forte which the last version was 3.3.
    You can use Xnews.
    You can use Gravity Usenet News Reader.

    You can find all of these with a Google.com search.

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  • From Pierre@3:770/3 to Eric Hill on Tue Dec 19 06:09:01 2023
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> wrote:
    At the top of the screen for Google Groups:

    "Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it
    is done today."

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    It is unfortunate but the spam flood for the last couple of months has been rediculous. So, it is good ridence to bad spammers.

    When my ISP (largest telco in Australia) shutdown it's Usenet servers, I switched to Giganews. I am still using tin as my news client, as I have for the last 30 years.

    Long live Usenet.

    Cheers
    Pierre

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  • From Nigel Reed@3:770/3 to Andreas Kohlbach on Mon Dec 18 23:50:26 2023
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 21:06:37 -0500
    Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:04:42 -0500, DrSkinner wrote:

    On 2023-12-17 05:31, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's
    posts and content outside of Google Groups?
    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a
    decade
    now.

    Thanks for the recommendation. I registered on Eternal September and pointed Thunderbird at it.

    There are much better newsfroup clients, but they require
    payment...I have no problem paying for software but the 2-3
    messages a month that still trickle in from comp.sys.cbm aren't
    worth the expense. :)

    From a technical point of view Thunderbird produces proper articles.

    But I don't really like its GUI anymore. Using something else here.
    :-)

    My bulletin board carries this group since it is gatewayed to Fidonet
    so you're welcome to join and use my board to access it. It also allows
    nntp connections and I'm also working on a way to provide access to my
    news server to bbs users. Point your telnet, ssh, or rlogin client to endofthelinebbs.com and sign up for a free account, drop me an email so
    I can upgrade your account with post privileges and you're away.




    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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  • From Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood@3:770/3 to All on Mon Dec 18 10:54:23 2023
    Groovy hepcat Anssi Saari was jivin' in comp.sys.cbm on Sun, 17 Dec 2023
    09:31 pm. It's a cool scene! Dig it.

    Eric Hill <eric@sporcle.com> writes:

    How are all of you planning (or currently) accessing this group's
    posts and content outside of Google Groups?

    I've been using Eternal September's Usenet service for about a decade
    now.

    I'm a much more recent convert to ES. I've never used GG, though; only
    real news servers.

    I guess Google's change means I can clean up the recently added
    scoring rules for Google Groups posters.

    Good point! I hadn't even thought of my (bulging) filters. I had
    blanket kill-filed all posts from GG. But since that was done in one
    fell swoop, removing it won't make a heap of difference. But still...

    --


    ----- Dig the NEW and IMPROVED news sig!! -----


    -------------- Shaggy was here! ---------------
    Ain't I'm a dawg!!

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  • From Gary McCulloch@1:154/50 to All on Fri Dec 29 19:39:30 2023
    Nothing is better than calling a good old Commodore BBS!

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  • From Phigan@3:770/3 to All on Tue Jan 2 04:59:22 2024
    To: nospam.Gary.McCulloch
    Re: Re: End of an Era
    By: nospam.Gary.McCulloch to All on Fri Dec 29 2023 19:39:30

    Nothing is better than calling a good old Commodore BBS!

    What about calling a good new Commodore BBS? :D

    - phigan
    .[ TIRED of waiting 2 hrs for a taco?! ].
    :[ GOTO TACOPRONTO.bbs.io:2064 PETSCII ]:
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  • From Gary McCulloch@1:154/50 to Phigan on Thu Jan 4 17:03:52 2024
    On Tue 2-Jan-2024 4:59a, Phigan@3:770/3.0 wrote:
    What about calling a good new Commodore BBS? :D

    Well, not sure if I can offer NEW. My Commodore board has been up on Telnet going on 14 years now. It offers this FTN and a few others. It is very C64/128 friendly. ANSI, ASCII, Petscii and Skypix Graphics supported. Including 40/80 column support.

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  • From Phigan@3:770/3 to All on Fri Jan 5 08:52:02 2024
    To: nospam.Gary.McCulloch
    Re: Re: End of an Era
    By: nospam.Gary.McCulloch to Phigan on Thu Jan 04 2024 17:03:52

    C64/128 friendly. ANSI, ASCII, Petscii and Skypix Graphics supported. Including 40/80 column support.

    Ah yes. I do the same thing over on Taco Pronto.

    There _are_ some new(ish?) BBSes running on actual Commodores, though!
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