• ProBoard v2.30]

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to All on Mon Nov 6 15:56:04 2023
    Hi everyone,

    Jason Bock, the owner and developer of ProBoard, has announced that a new version of PB (v2.30) will be released on December 16, 2023.

    For more details, please see the PROBOARD echo.

    -- Sean

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Mon Nov 6 23:28:51 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to All on Mon Nov 06 2023 03:56 pm

    Hi everyone,

    Jason Bock, the owner and developer of ProBoard, has announced that a new version of PB (v2.30) will be released on December 16, 2023.

    For more details, please see the PROBOARD echo.

    i had some problems installing it. i didnt want to register on slasher's forum over something trivial.
    is there a real way to contact the guy?

    and why do the docs say slasher owns it?
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 7 10:16:20 2023
    Because you are using a version that is dead inm the water. I use PB 2.17 which was release before Telegrafix destroyed it. The upcoming version fixes several Y2K issues that Telegrafix didn't fixed.

    John bought the source code from the former Telegrafix programmer who legally owned it. John had others go through it and fix a few things but the PB source code was still a terrible mess (I know; I have a copy of it). John then realized he couldn't do much with it so he sold it to Jason who has been able to fix a lot of the "fatal" issues with the PB code.

    With 2.17, it's freeware, no registration. The rest of the Telegrafix and John's "registration" code is gone.

    Jason Bock is a member of Fidonet and can be reached in the PROBOARD echo or at proboardbbs.com. He's also a member of Micronet and can be contacted in MIN_PB.

    -- Sean

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 7 11:21:28 2023
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 07 2023 10:16 am

    Just a head's up, your recent messages (from ProBoard v2.17) have been received multiple times here. Since the messagess don't have a message-ID, only content dupe checking would work to discovwer/remove the dupes (which I guess I will now enable for this echo). Just thought I'd let you know.
    --
    digital man (rob)

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Tue Nov 7 13:12:53 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Tue Nov 07 2023 10:16 am

    John bought the source code from the former Telegrafix programmer who legally owned it. John had others go through it and fix a few things but the PB source code was still a terrible mess (I know; I have a copy of it). John then realized he couldn't do much with it so he sold it to Jason who

    i don't belive any of that methead's lies. pcmike has caught him many time as have i.

    John then realized he couldn't do much with it so he sold it to Jason who has been able to fix a lot of the "fatal" issues with the PB code.


    riley said he bought what was essentially a debug dump.
    i dont believe anything he says. he also doesnt have money to buy anything.

    Jason Bock is a member of Fidonet and can be reached in the PROBOARD echo or at proboardbbs.com. He's also a member of Micronet and can be contacted in MIN_PB.


    dude just needs a contact link on the website.
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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Rob Swindell on Tue Nov 7 20:54:41 2023

    Just a head's up, your recent messages (from ProBoard v2.17) have been received multiple times here. Since the messagess don't have a message-ID, only content dupe checking would work to discovwer/remove the dupes (which guess I will now enable for this echo). Just thought I'd let you know.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #10:
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    Odd you mention this, I only received it one time over this way.

    ... Kill the extremists.

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to T.J. Mcmillen on Tue Nov 7 18:58:06 2023
    Re: Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: T.J. Mcmillen to Rob Swindell on Tue Nov 07 2023 08:54 pm

    Odd you mention this, I only received it one time over this way.

    Sean's messages are arriving here via multiple different paths:
    X-FTN-PATH 18/200 229/426 153/7715 3634/12 154/10 280/464
    X-FTN-PATH 18/200 229/426 218/700

    Without Message-IDs, the only way to deduplicate is via message content (e.g. body text).
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    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #88:
    UDP = User Datagram Protocol
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 02:36:50 2023
    On 07 Nov 23 18:58:06, Rob Swindell said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

    Without Message-IDs, the only way to deduplicate is via message content (e. body text).

    My system has dedupe'd without any message-ID nonsense, for many years now.

    Nick

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  • From Dumas Walker@1:2320/105 to ROB SWINDELL on Wed Nov 8 10:28:00 2023
    Just a head's up, your recent messages (from ProBoard v2.17) have been received
    multiple times here. Since the messagess don't have a message-ID, only content >upe checking would work to discovwer/remove the dupes (which I guess I will now
    enable for this echo). Just thought I'd let you know.

    DM,
    Not sure if it is because I am a version behind, or some other reason, but whatever dupes there were had filtered out when they got here. My board
    only has one copy of Sean's messages.

    Mike


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Wed Nov 8 10:54:12 2023
    Nick Andre wrote to Rob Swindell <=-

    My system has dedupe'd without any message-ID nonsense, for many years now.

    I checked and I have Squish set to dupe check both the message header
    and the MSGID. Could it be a system is in a negative feedback loop and
    sending out mail it's already received?

    -- Sean

    ... A few puns make me numb but math puns make me number.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 10:58:23 2023
    Rob Swindell wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Just a head's up, your recent messages (from ProBoard v2.17) have been received multiple times here. Since the messagess don't have a
    message-ID, only content dupe checking would work to discovwer/remove
    the dupes (which I guess I will now enable for this echo). Just thought I'd let you know.

    Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it.

    -- Sean


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 11:01:51 2023
    Rob Swindell wrote to T.J. Mcmillen <=-

    Sean's messages are arriving here via multiple different paths:
    X-FTN-PATH 18/200 229/426 153/7715 3634/12 154/10 280/464
    X-FTN-PATH 18/200 229/426 218/700

    Without Message-IDs, the only way to deduplicate is via message content (e.g. body text).

    Besides the dupes, could it be a system is sending out mail it's
    alreadfy received? I'm no expert here but experience is making me think
    it's a misconfigured system. That's Kurt Weiske's system. I'll netmail
    him and have him look into it. Thanks for letting me know.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jas Hud on Wed Nov 8 11:19:20 2023
    Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    riley said he bought what was essentially a debug dump.

    Yes but it still compiles and works. How do I know? I have a copy of
    the original archive John was given.

    dude just needs a contact link on the website.

    Nearly all email servers are set up if you send a message to postmaster
    (at domain), the admin of the site will get it. Still, Jason also
    prefers being contacted in his support echoes at via netmail at 1:1/101.

    There's also a Discord server.

    -- Sean

    ... "A man is never too old to learn." - Thomas Middleton
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Nick Andre on Wed Nov 8 10:03:05 2023
    Re: Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Nick Andre to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 08 2023 02:36 am

    On 07 Nov 23 18:58:06, Rob Swindell said the following to T.J. Mcmillen:

    Without Message-IDs, the only way to deduplicate is via message content (e. body text).

    My system has dedupe'd without any message-ID nonsense, for many years now.

    Same here. I just didn't have body-text dupe checking enabled for this echo (never needed it here), before now.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #20:
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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Dumas Walker on Wed Nov 8 10:04:02 2023
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Dumas Walker to ROB SWINDELL on Wed Nov 08 2023 10:28 am

    Not sure if it is because I am a version behind, or some other reason, but whatever dupes there were had filtered out when they got here. My board only has one copy of Sean's messages.

    You likely have (body-text) dupe-checking enabled for this echo in SCFG.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #8:
    Karl Childers: I don't reckon I got no reason to kill nobody.
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Nov 8 13:19:40 2023
    On 08 Nov 23 10:54:12, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    I checked and I have Squish set to dupe check both the message header
    and the MSGID. Could it be a system is in a negative feedback loop and sending out mail it's already received?

    If negative feedback loop means a system in the Path line is stripping Seen-By lines, likely yes.

    Nick

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Wed Nov 8 14:28:10 2023
    Hi Nick,

    If negative feedback loop means a system in the Path line is stripping Seen-By lines, likely yes.

    I'll try to get to the bottom of this. Not sure why it's happening.

    -- Sean

    --- ProBoard v2.17 [Reg]
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 14:44:12 2023
    Hello, Rob!

    Replying to a message of Rob Swindell to Nick Andre:

    Same here. I just didn't have body-text dupe checking enabled for this echo (never needed it here), before now.

    This is the first time I've seen it in here also.

    -- Sean

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Wed Nov 8 13:57:17 2023
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 08 2023 02:44 pm

    Hello, Rob!

    Replying to a message of Rob Swindell to Nick Andre:

    Same here. I just didn't have body-text dupe checking enabled for this echo (never needed it here), before now.

    This is the first time I've seen it in here also.

    Your older messages, and this one, include a unique Message-ID:
    X-FTN-MSGID 1:18/200 654b9ee6

    which can aide in message de-duplication.

    Looks like the ProBoard echomail program/support doesn't include Message-ID support (?).
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #25:
    Throw off those chains of reason and your prison disappears
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Wed Nov 8 17:33:59 2023
    On 08 Nov 23 14:28:10, Sean Dennis said the following to Nick Andre:

    If negative feedback loop means a system in the Path line is stripping Seen-By lines, likely yes.

    I'll try to get to the bottom of this. Not sure why it's happening.

    No rush...

    Nick

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 20:05:42 2023
    Hi Rob,

    Looks like the ProBoard echomail program/support doesn't include Message- ID support (?).

    ProBoard doesn't right now but it will soon enough.

    -- Sean

    --- ProBoard v2.17 [Reg]
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Wed Nov 8 19:47:57 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Wed Nov 08 2023 11:19 am

    Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    riley said he bought what was essentially a debug dump.


    riley got a literal debug dump from clawson which he claims he paid for.
    he showed pcmike some form with a signature signed with a font.

    Yes but it still compiles and works. How do I know? I have a copy of
    the original archive John was given.

    i remember someone released an older version for everyone. maybe someone changed the version number.

    Dunno, too many lies over the years.


    Nearly all email servers are set up if you send a message to postmaster
    (at domain), the admin of the site will get it. Still, Jason also

    maybe 20 years ago, but not now. my experience is it'll bounce back.
    I'm not going to bend over backwards to report an issue.
    Every website should have a contact link.

    (at domain), the admin of the site will get it. Still, Jason also
    prefers being contacted in his support echoes at via netmail at 1:1/101.

    There's also a Discord server.


    tell him to put a contact link on the website.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Rob Swindell on Wed Nov 8 19:48:50 2023
    To: Rob Swindell
    Re: Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Rob Swindell to Nick Andre on Wed Nov 08 2023 10:03 am

    content (e. body text).

    My system has dedupe'd without any message-ID nonsense, for many years now.

    Same here. I just didn't have body-text dupe checking enabled for this echo (never needed it here), before now.

    i always have that shit turned on. ever since robert wolfe would flood everything when changing softwares.
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jas Hud on Wed Nov 8 23:18:14 2023
    Every website should have a contact link.

    Every website has a contact email like I just told you. Not my problem that you're too obstinate to use the info I gave you.

    Now drop the subject in here. No one cares.

    -- Sean

    --- ProBoard v2.17 [Reg]
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Thu Nov 9 04:25:58 2023
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Wed Nov 08 2023 11:18 pm

    Every website should have a contact link.

    Every website has a contact email like I just told you. Not my problem

    that
    you're too obstinate to use the info I gave you.

    no they don't. maybe 25 years ago, but most of it bounces back. that email address is widely used for spammers.

    Furthermore, the Oct 26th documentation has John Riley's name all over it, and and only his email contact. so i guess we all have THAT

    Now drop the subject in here. No one cares.

    -- Sean

    quit being a baby. it's not your software so you aren't the one making
    these mistakes.
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  • From Dumas Walker@1:2320/105 to ROB SWINDELL on Thu Nov 9 08:52:00 2023
    Not sure if it is because I am a version behind, or some other reason, but whatever dupes there were had filtered out when they got here. My board only has one copy of Sean's messages.

    You likely have (body-text) dupe-checking enabled for this echo in SCFG.

    The only dupe checking I have is "50 message CRCs". If that is the same as "(body-text)" you are correct. Otherwise, I don't appear to have that
    turned on.

    Mike


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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 9 10:56:38 2023
    Re: ProBoard v2.30]
    By: Dumas Walker to ROB SWINDELL on Thu Nov 09 2023 08:52 am

    Not sure if it is because I am a version behind, or some other reason, but whatever dupes there were had filtered out when they got here. My board only has one copy of Sean's messages.

    You likely have (body-text) dupe-checking enabled for this echo in SCFG.

    The only dupe checking I have is "50 message CRCs". If that is the same as "(body-text)" you are correct.

    Yes. But 50 is a pretty short history.
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Breaking Bad quote #13:
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