One ralley goer dead, others critically wounded, pressumed shooter dead.
Trumps right ear hit, frmr President Trump is alright.

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Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Denn to All on Sat Jul 13 2024 11:15 pm

One ralley goer dead, others critically wounded, pressumed shooter dead. Trumps right ear hit, frmr President Trump is alright.

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the the hell do we live?
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Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third >presidental/candidate assassination attempt in >my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where >the the hell do we live?

Totally crazy, the crazy thing is there was a camera that showed the shooter, and a guy told police about a guy with a rifle climbing to the roof.

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Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate >assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the the >hell do we live?

I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?


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Re: Attempted assassination o
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Mon Jul 15 2024 09:05 am

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate
assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where
the the hell do we live?

I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?

Yes, Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme of the Manson family was the would be assassin.

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Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Digital Man to Denn on Sun Jul 14 2024 12:50 pm

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the the hell do we live?

It is called Democracy, which is a system in which you use arguments to convince people to vote for you, so different groups can participate in society without the need of voilence, riots and killing opposing political leaders.
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Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Arelor to Digital Man on Wed Jul 17 2024 02:58 am

Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Digital Man to Denn on Sun Jul 14 2024 12:50 pm

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the the hell do we live?

It is called Democracy, which is a system in which you use arguments to convince people to vote for you, so different groups can participate in society without the need of voilence, riots and killing opposing political leaders.

Uh huh. But then we have this.
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Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Arelor to Digital Man on Wed Jul 17 2024 02:58 am

Re: Attempted assassination of frmr President Trump.
By: Digital Man to Denn on Sun Jul 14 2024 12:50 pm

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the the hell do we live?

It is called Democracy, which is a system in which you use arguments to convince people to vote for you, so different groups can participate in society without the need of voilence, riots and killing opposing political leaders.

we're in a republic because our forefathers knew people were stupid, but it's degenerated.
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we're in a republic because our forefathers knew people were stupid, but it's degenerated.

Yep, but politicians are trying hard to push the democracy lie.
We are a Constitutional Representative Republic, the founding father's were against becoming a Democracy.

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We are a Constitutional Representative Republic, the founding father's we against becoming a Democracy.

You know both of those can be, and are, true. We're a republic because our head of state is elected, and we're a democracy because power is vested in the people, who exercise it by voting.

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Re: Attempted assassination o
By: halian to Denn on Thu Jul 18 2024 11:53 pm

We are a Constitutional Representative Republic, the founding
father's we against becoming a Democracy.

You know both of those can be, and are, true. We're a republic because our head of state is elected, and we're a democracy because power is vested in the people, who exercise it by voting.

A republic is a form of government where citizens elect representatives and officials, and the government is ruled by a constitution or charter.

The founding fathers made it clear, we are a republic and not a democracy.

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The founding fathers made it clear, we are a republic and not a democracy.

Both. We're both. A republic *and* a democracy. To wit:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

1a(1): a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in
modern times is usually a president
(2): a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government > b(1): a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens
entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and
representatives responsible to them and governing according to law > (2): a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

1a : government by the people
especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and
exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of
representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2 : a political unit that has a democratic government

The two are *not* necessarily exclusive, and Merriam-Webster even debunks this line of thinking in the FAQ for "democracy":

Is the United States a democracy or a republic?
The United States is both a democracy and a republic. Democracies and republics are both forms of government in which supreme power resides in the citizens. The word republic refers specifically to a government in which those citizens elect representatives who govern according to the law. The word democracy can refer to this same kind of representational government,
or it can refer instead to what is also called a direct democracy, in which the citizens themselves participate in the act of governing directly.

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The two are *not* necessarily exclusive, and Merriam-Webster even debunks this line of thinking in the FAQ for "democracy":

A Repulic is bound by Constitutional rules.
We are a Constitutional Republic bound to our constitution.
Our form of Government is not a Democracy.
A constitutional republic provides safeguards to ensure that the decisions made by elected officials are generally in line with the best interest of the people.

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The two are *not* necessarily exclusive, and Merriam-Webster even debunk this line of thinking in the FAQ for "democracy":

A Repulic is bound by Constitutional rules.
We are a Constitutional Republic bound to our constitution.
Our form of Government is not a Democracy.
A constitutional republic provides safeguards to ensure that the decisions by elected officials are generally in line with the best interest of the people.

Just admit that you're wrong and move on with your life lol

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Just admit that you're wrong and move on with your life lol

I'm definitely not wrong, a Republic and a Democracy are different.

By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different. The main difference between a republic and a democracy is the charter or constitution that limits power in a republic, often to protect the individual's rights against the desires of the majority.

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direct democracy, in which
the citizens themselves participate in the act of governing directly.

This may be an education system thing. In school, I think most people are taught where democracy is used specifically to mean in the direct sense, as defined above.

IMHO, many of our politicians also use it incorrectly.

I was taught that we are a Representative Republic where the people Democratically select their representatives. They did teach us that were
were not a "democracy," meaning not a direct one.

As I said, I think some politicans and others use it wrong, as if we are
(or should be) a direct democracy.


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I'm definitely not wrong, a Republic and a Democracy are different.

Ow, my sides.

By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is r

Reread my post where I quoted the dictionary at you.
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direct democracy, in which
the citizens themselves participate in the act of governing directly.

This may be an education system thing. In school, I think most people are taught where democracy is used specifically to mean in the direct sense, a defined above.

Cannot confirm; I was taught that there are two kinds of democracy: direct and representative. These US are obviously the latter.

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This may be an education system thing. In school, I think most people are taught where democracy is used specifically to mean in the direct sense, as defined above.

IMHO, many of our politicians also use it incorrectly.

I was taught that we are a Representative Republic where the people Democratically select their representatives. They did teach us that were were not a "democracy," meaning not a direct one.

As I said, I think some politicans and others use it wrong, as if we are
(or should be) a direct democracy.

Most politicians get it wrong, many politicians know we're a Constitutional Representative Republic, yet they push the democracy fallacy.
The only resemblance of a Republic and a Democracy is both vote in their leaders.
Our forefathers put in an extra safety valve when they instituted the electoral college.

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Re: Attempted assassination o
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Mon Jul 15 2024 09:05 am

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate >assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the >hell do we live?

I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?

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Yes, I think they called her "Sqeaky" Fromme or similar.
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Re: Attempted assassination o
By: Philip to Dumas Walker on Tue Jul 23 2024 11:52 pm

Isn't that crazy? That's (at least) the third presidental/candidate >assassination attempt in my lifetime (Ford, Reagan, now Trump) - where the >hell do we live?

I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?

Yes, I think they called her "Sqeaky" Fromme or similar.

they tried to get ford twice. poor fella.
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I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?

Yes, I think they called her "Sqeaky" Fromme or similar.

Yep, that is her. As MRO pointed out, there were actually two attempts on Ford. Weird since he was mostly a caretaker and not very controversial.


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Re: Attempted assassination o
By: Dumas Walker to PHILIP on Wed Jul 24 2024 10:00 am

I often forget about Ford. Wasn't his assassin tied to the Manson Family somehow?

Yes, I think they called her "Sqeaky" Fromme or similar.

Yep, that is her. As MRO pointed out, there were actually two attempts on Ford. Weird since he was mostly a caretaker and not very controversial.

ford was a well liked, honest , good man. until he pardoned nixon.
and when he did that he had the best intentions for the country.
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Yep, that is her. As MRO pointed out, there were actually two attempts on Ford. Weird since he was mostly a caretaker and not very controversial.

ford was a well liked, honest , good man. until he pardoned nixon.
and when he did that he had the best intentions for the country.

I agree that he did. We needed to move on.


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