• Re: LinuxNet

    From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to deon on Tue Feb 25 19:00:54 2025
    deon wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...
    I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
    than start up a new network.

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have
    time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
    don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

    So as you might recall, I've taken over some othernets in the past -
    only to see lots of initial messages of "great" and "thanks for keeping
    it alive", then it to fade away and die.

    Yes, that's always a possibility.

    Do we need another net? Could these linux focused conversations run an existing othernet - that most of us are already on?

    Well, the existing LinuxNet is not really new. It was revived about two
    years ago, and seemed to be getting off the ground, but then the ZC just
    kind of .... fizzled. Very difficult to contact or get a reply about anything. I may try again to contact him.

    I'd be interested in getting those messages (didnt realize there was a linuxnet?) - wasnt this run by Gert and it faded away?

    It was, long ago, but "came back to life" briefly nearly two years ago
    now, and then faded away again after maybe six months. I got so
    frustrated with the lack of management that I left the net.




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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Sean Rima on Tue Feb 25 19:00:54 2025
    Sean Rima wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
    your thoughts on it...

    Yeah I would be very interested in joining up

    OK Sean, thanks and stay tuned, we'll see where this goes...




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  • From Mickey@1:229/308 to Dan Clough on Tue Feb 25 19:47:28 2025
    Re: Re: LinuxNet
    By: Dan Clough to Sean Rima on Tue Feb 25 2025 15:36:37

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there
    would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

    I'm by no means an expert with linux though this laptop runs on Debian. I'd certainly be interested in joining a new network.

    Mick Manning
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Mickey on Tue Feb 25 20:08:32 2025
    Mickey wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Re: Re: LinuxNet
    By: Dan Clough to Sean Rima on Tue Feb 25 2025 15:36:37

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused
    networ
    k, and wondering if there
    would be interest. One thing different would certainly be that it would
    be
    actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

    I'm by no means an expert with linux though this laptop runs on Debian. I'd certainly be interested in joining a new network.

    Okay Mick, stay tuned and we'll hash things around a bit and see what
    we're gonna do. :-)




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  • From Floris van Unen@2:280/2050 to Dan Clough on Wed Feb 26 06:56:24 2025

    Hello Dan!

    25 Feb 25 15:36, you wrote to Sean Rima:

    Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet?

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
    your thoughts on it...

    would be happy to help out in any way or form!

    regards,
    Floris


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  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1 to Dan Clough on Wed Feb 26 10:38:16 2025
    Dan Clough wrote to Sean Rima <=-

    Sean Rima wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused
    network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different
    would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to
    hear
    your thoughts on it...

    Yeah I would be very interested in joining up

    OK Sean, thanks and stay tuned, we'll see where this goes...


    That's grand

    Sean


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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Floris van Unen on Wed Feb 26 11:07:32 2025
    Floris van Unen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet?

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
    your thoughts on it...

    would be happy to help out in any way or form!

    Thanks! Stay tuned...



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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to All on Sat Mar 1 09:30:50 2025
    Re: Re: LinuxNet
    By: Dan Clough to Nigel Reed on Tue Feb 25 2025 07:00 pm

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

    I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather than start up a new network.

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

    Certainly a possibility. One of the big issues with that is that the current ZC doesn't seem to respond to anything, and I think might not be
    in favor of such a thing.

    I suppose it's worth asking him, I can give that a try.

    Well.... an update on this. I've tried contacting Chad (the ZC) via email, Fido netmail, and Linuxnet echomail, and have had no response. I'll give it a little longer, but not gonna hold my breath.

    If anyone knows another way to contact him, that would be great, and helpful. Basically wanting to know if he intends to continue running LinuxNet, and/or how he would feel about letting someone else do it.

    Please advise here if anyone gets any further news... Thanks.
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  • From Sean Rima@2:263/1 to Dan Clough on Sat Mar 1 15:50:18 2025
    I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
    than start up a new network.

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have >> NR> time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
    don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

    Certainly a possibility. One of the big issues with that is that the
    current ZC doesn't seem to respond to anything, and I think might not be
    in favor of such a thing.

    I suppose it's worth asking him, I can give that a try.

    Well.... an update on this. I've tried contacting Chad (the ZC) via email,
    Fido netmail, and Linuxnet echomail, and have had no response. I'll give it a
    little longer, but not gonna hold my breath.

    If anyone knows another way to contact him, that would be great, and helpful. Basically wanting to know if he intends to continue running LinuxNet, and/or how he would feel about letting someone else do it.

    Please advise here if anyone gets any further news... Thanks.

    I have tried to also get hold of Chad and I am assuming at this stage that his BBS is on auto pilot. As far as I can see, there has been no sysop login in the
    last while. It is hard to know.

    I have sent him routed netmails, emails and messages on his bbs and all to no avail. Maybe he has family or other issues, we don't know but no one seems to be a stand in, in the event that he cannot be contacted.

    I cannot recall seeing a message from him here saying he was back running it, it was someone else who mentioned it and Chad's bbs

    Sean

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to All on Tue Mar 18 17:00:39 2025
    Re: Re: LinuxNet
    By: Nigel Reed to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 03:45 pm

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:36:37 -0600
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    Sean Rima wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

    Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it
    still a viable network these days? Thanks.

    LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response
    from Chad most of the time, although his system is still running
    and accepting mail. I am still producing the distributed
    LinuxNet nodelists, although I have no confirmation that they
    are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

    All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much reason to continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related to Linux.

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative" Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest. One thing
    different would certainly be that it would be actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
    your thoughts on it...

    I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet rather
    than start up a new network.

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't have
    time to work and promote it? That is something I would get behind. I
    don't think I'd want to try and start another new network from scratch.

    An update on this... I've tried to contact the current LinuxNet operator via Netmail, Email, Echomail, and his local BBS message base; for the last three weeks or so, with no response whatsoever. So either he's ignoring or is just out of the loop completely.

    Not sure what the next step is at this point. I've got an outline of a plan for starting a replacement Net and may do that by sometime next month. I've got some work/travel demands that will keep me too busy until then.

    Still interested in comments from you all on whether that's a good idea, or some alternatives. I know there is a Fido Linux echo that is mostly quiet, and not sure if that is a surefire indicator of how a new Net would do, or not. Your thoughts are welcome if you have any.
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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Tue Mar 18 21:00:25 2025
    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:00:39 -0500
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    Re: Re: LinuxNet
    By: Nigel Reed to All on Tue Feb 25 2025 03:45 pm

    On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:36:37 -0600
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    Sean Rima wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

    Andrew Leary wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Can you advise on the current state of LinuxNet? Is it
    still a viable network these days? Thanks.

    LinuxNet is still operating, barely. I can't get a response
    from Chad most of the time, although his system is still
    running and accepting mail. I am still producing the
    distributed LinuxNet nodelists, although I have no
    confirmation that they are actually making it out to Chad's downlinks.

    All in all, I'm starting to think that there's not much
    reason to continue it. Perhaps the FidoNet LINUX echo
    would be a more realistic place to discuss anything related
    to Linux.

    I am actually considering starting up an "alternative"
    Linux-focused network, and wondering if there would be interest.
    One thing different would certainly be that it would be
    actively maintained...

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to
    hear your thoughts on it...

    I would much rather see someone else take control of Linuxnet
    rather than start up a new network.

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't
    have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get
    behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start another new
    network from scratch.

    An update on this... I've tried to contact the current LinuxNet
    operator via Netmail, Email, Echomail, and his local BBS message
    base; for the last three weeks or so, with no response whatsoever.
    So either he's ignoring or is just out of the loop completely.

    Not sure what the next step is at this point. I've got an outline of
    a plan for starting a replacement Net and may do that by sometime
    next month. I've got some work/travel demands that will keep me too
    busy until then.

    Still interested in comments from you all on whether that's a good
    idea, or some alternatives. I know there is a Fido Linux echo that
    is mostly quiet, and not sure if that is a surefire indicator of how
    a new Net would do, or not. Your thoughts are welcome if you have
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Nigel Reed on Tue Mar 18 22:08:02 2025
    Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he doesn't
    have time to work and promote it? That is something I would get
    behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start another new
    network from scratch.

    An update on this... I've tried to contact the current LinuxNet
    operator via Netmail, Email, Echomail, and his local BBS message
    base; for the last three weeks or so, with no response whatsoever.
    So either he's ignoring or is just out of the loop completely.

    Not sure what the next step is at this point. I've got an outline of
    a plan for starting a replacement Net and may do that by sometime
    next month. I've got some work/travel demands that will keep me too
    busy until then.

    Still interested in comments from you all on whether that's a good
    idea, or some alternatives. I know there is a Fido Linux echo that
    is mostly quiet, and not sure if that is a surefire indicator of how
    a new Net would do, or not. Your thoughts are welcome if you have
    any.

    Just declare yourself 110:0/0 and have the hubs point to you. Done.

    Hehe, maybe, but it's a little more than that, and not sure how
    "ethical" that would be. I guess it's a possibility, but seems a little unlikely.

    Thanks for the input, and hoping to get some more... ;-)



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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to All on Wed Mar 19 00:20:33 2025
    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 22:08:02 -0500
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <Dan.Clough@f115.n135.z1.fidonet> wrote:

    Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

    Why not talk to the current owner about taking over if he
    doesn't have time to work and promote it? That is something I
    would get behind. I don't think I'd want to try and start
    another new network from scratch.

    An update on this... I've tried to contact the current LinuxNet
    operator via Netmail, Email, Echomail, and his local BBS message
    base; for the last three weeks or so, with no response whatsoever.
    So either he's ignoring or is just out of the loop completely.

    Not sure what the next step is at this point. I've got an outline
    of a plan for starting a replacement Net and may do that by
    sometime next month. I've got some work/travel demands that will
    keep me too busy until then.

    Still interested in comments from you all on whether that's a good
    idea, or some alternatives. I know there is a Fido Linux echo that
    is mostly quiet, and not sure if that is a surefire indicator of
    how a new Net would do, or not. Your thoughts are welcome if you
    have any.

    Just declare yourself 110:0/0 and have the hubs point to you.
    Done.

    Hehe, maybe, but it's a little more than that, and not sure how
    "ethical" that would be. I guess it's a possibility, but seems a
    little unlikely.

    Thanks for the input, and hoping to get some more... ;-)



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    You want me to have a go and contact him? It's hit and miss sometimes.
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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Nigel Reed on Wed Mar 19 08:11:58 2025
    Nigel Reed wrote to All <=-

    An update on this... I've tried to contact the current LinuxNet
    operator via Netmail, Email, Echomail, and his local BBS message
    base; for the last three weeks or so, with no response whatsoever.
    So either he's ignoring or is just out of the loop completely.

    Not sure what the next step is at this point. I've got an outline
    of a plan for starting a replacement Net and may do that by
    sometime next month. I've got some work/travel demands that will
    keep me too busy until then.

    Still interested in comments from you all on whether that's a good
    idea, or some alternatives. I know there is a Fido Linux echo that
    is mostly quiet, and not sure if that is a surefire indicator of
    how a new Net would do, or not. Your thoughts are welcome if you
    have any.

    Just declare yourself 110:0/0 and have the hubs point to you.
    Done.

    Hehe, maybe, but it's a little more than that, and not sure how
    "ethical" that would be. I guess it's a possibility, but seems a
    little unlikely.

    You want me to have a go and contact him? It's hit and miss sometimes.

    Sure, if you can reach him that would be great. The question for him
    is: If you're not gonna run LinuxNet, would you be willing to let
    somebody else do it...

    Thanks.



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  • From Jim Howarth@1:229/300 to Dan Clough on Fri Mar 21 10:04:52 2025
    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on it...

    I'd run a net like that.. mostly just for myself ultimately but it would be on the BBS as well.


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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Jim Howarth on Fri Mar 21 12:38:51 2025
    Jim Howarth wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Anyone that might be interested in such a thing - I'd be glad to hear
    your thoughts on it...

    I'd run a net like that.. mostly just for myself ultimately but it
    would be on the BBS as well.

    Okay cool, stay tuned and we'll see what's gonna happen. Still waiting
    to hear some word back from a couple of people. Thanks for the input.



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